Recruitment Warriors 2024/2025 Recruitment & Retention

Warriors 2024/2025 Recruitment & Retention Discussion
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-​	Player​	2024​	2025​	2026​	2027​	2028​
1	Bunty Afoa	✔	✔
2	Tom Ale	✔	✔
3	Mitchell Barnett	✔	✔	✔	✔
4	The Greatest of All-Time	✔	✔	✔
5	Kurt Capewell	✔	✔	✔
6	Wayde Egan	✔	✔	✔	✔
7	Addin Fonua-Blake	✔
8	Jackson Ford	✔	✔
9	Leka Halasima	✔	✔	✔	✔
10	Tohu Harris	✔	✔
11	Chanel Harris-Tavita	✔	✔	M
12	Shaun Johnson	✔
13	Edward Kosi	✔	✔
14	Jacob Laban	✔	✔	✔
15	Ali Leiataua	✔	✔
16	Freddy Lussick	✔	✔	✔
17	Zyon Maiu’u	✔	✔	✔
18	Te Maire Martin	✔	✔
19	Luke Metcalf	✔	✔	✔
20	Marcelo Montoya	✔	✔
21	Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad	✔	✔
22	Marata Niukore	✔	✔	✔
23	Adam Pompey	✔	✔
24	Demitric Sifakula	✔	✔	C
25	Jazz Tevaga	✔
26	Taine Tuaupiki	✔	✔
27	Roger Tuivasa-Sheck	✔	✔	✔
28	Dylan Walker	✔	✔
29	Dallin Watene-Zelezniak	✔	✔
D1	Ben Farr	D
D2	Etuane Fukofuka	D
D3	Patrick Moimoi	D
D4	Tanner Stowers-Smith	D	D
-	Jett Cleary	-	D	D	D
-	James Fisher-Harris	-	✔	✔	✔	✔
-	Kalani Going	-	D
-	Motu Pasikala	-	✔	✔	✔

key: C = Club option, M = Mutual option, P = Player option, D = Development contract

Confirmed Top 30 2024: 29/30
Confirmed Development 2024: 4/6

Confirmed Top 30 2025: 28/30
Confirmed Development 2025: 4/6

2025 Gains: James Fisher-Harris (Panthers), Jett Cleary (Panthers Pathways), Kahu Capper (Roosters Pathways)
2025 Losses: Addin Fonua-Blake (Sharks), Jazz Tevaga (Contract Expired), Shaun Johnson (Retirement)
2025 Off Contract: Nil

 

[Warriorshopeful]

Throw in Moses and you've got yourself a deal!

You not keen on Brown then I take it? Haha

 

[run_it_str8_again]

Would a better hooker help? One that can kick out of dh? Or is that a unicorn?

Im half sold on Roache being a fast running from marker hooker. Able to get offside penalties or just break defences with youthful speed. It brings defences in and opens space out wide. As he's a half as well here's hoping he can kick for distance

 

[John Nick]

Im half sold on Roache being a fast running from marker hooker. Able to get offside penalties or just break defences with youthful speed. It brings defences in and opens space out wide. As he's a half as well here's hoping he can kick for distance

Shouldn't kicking be something that can be coached surely

 

[Wahs Up TV]

Im half sold on Roache being a fast running from marker hooker. Able to get offside penalties or just break defences with youthful speed. It brings defences in and opens space out wide. As he's a half as well here's hoping he can kick for distance

Roache could be a starter next year imo. Quick service. Very active hooker. Physical in attack. His tempo specifically in the Penrith game lifted the team up a couple notches.

 

[Makasene]

Roache could be a starter next year imo. Quick service. Very active hooker. Physical in attack. His tempo specifically in the Penrith game lifted the team up a couple notches.

At what point do we seriosuly talk about Egan?

His extension was more than warranted but for me (and many) he has been a major dissapointment this year.

From a welfare standpoint I just can't see how we can continue to allow him to get knocked out multiple times a season.

His regression this season is a huge concern.

 

[Wahs Up TV]

At what point do we seriosuly talk about Egan?

His extension was more than warranted but for me (and many) he has been a major dissapointment this year.

From a welfare standpoint I just can't see how we can continue to allow him to get knocked out multiple times a season.

His regression this season is a huge concern.

I would say he would have to medically retire himself. But he should be getting some medical advice if I was him as he will only become more susceptible moving forward.

 

[kos]

At what point do we seriosuly talk about Egan?

His extension was more than warranted but for me (and many) he has been a major dissapointment this year.

From a welfare standpoint I just can't see how we can continue to allow him to get knocked out multiple times a season.

His regression this season is a huge concern.

Funny how guys play 9/10 before contract signed
After contract signed it’s 5 or 6/10.

Egan a great example but what we don’t know is fans how injury niggles hold him back

One thing with Webster is that he is over loyal to his core group of players

Needs to look past the forest to see the grass growing below - Roach i
Like what I have seen

 

[Wellington Warrior]

Throw in Moses and you've got yourself a deal!

Moses is managed by the biggest parasite in player management history… there is no chance we would consider him.

 

[Wrighty]

Moses is managed by the biggest parasite in player management history… there is no chance we would consider him.

Correct. Isaac Moses has a huge footprint in general at the Eels. So unless Wiremu Grieg is an exception we should as a rule not take him either irrespective of how good he is or isn't. Interesting to note Rooster don't want a bar of Mitchell due to who his agent is.

 

[BigUCE]

Correct. Isaac Moses has a huge footprint in general at the Eels. So unless Wiremu Grieg is an exception we should as a rule not take him either irrespective of how good he is or isn't. Interesting to note Rooster don't want a bar of Mitchell due to who his agent is.

Nope Grieg is under different management. Pacific sports.

 

[Christchurch_Warrior]

Nope Grieg is under different management. Pacific sports.

Same as Mitch Barnett, Niukore and Tuaupiki so a management team we have used before.

 

[Worried2Death]

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Thoughts?

If we could get him back to the version of Wiremu in this picture then yes he'd be handy, but he's looked like an unfit sack of spuds when I've seen him this year.

 

[run_it_str8_again]

Shouldn't kicking be something that can be coached surely

CHT and TMM have crappy long kicks apparently and have had coaching time so ummm

 

[tyrael]

CHT and TMM have crappy long kicks apparently and have had coaching time so ummm

SJ said he learnt to kick playing under 16 afl for NZ...

Get some AFL coach to come in.

 

[Wahs Up TV]

CHT and TMM have crappy long kicks apparently and have had coaching time so ummm

I think people are overselling the long kicking game. Its not so much a long kicking game its probably a high bomb and clinical 5th tackle kicking thats more important. We average the most metres per game in the comp and usually kick over half way on a yardage set. You probs want more hang time and placement of the kick is what you're probably implying which is a fair point.

I think the more important skill is processing information in really short amount of time. I feel SJ 2023 was processing info at a high clip and executing based off that info at probably a 80-85% completion rate per attempt. With probably close to 200 decisions a game (could be more or less just making up a number) he was making on average probably 150-175 correct decisions and executions per game.

My concern with these halves moving forward, are they good processors of information and can they make the right decisions in the short amount of time between tackle and play the ball? I feel TMM for as much as I've enjoyed him does struggle to make those decisions close to the end of a set (tackle 3-6) which usually you find alot of his options unorthodox, improvised and straight out awkward lol. Metcalfe probably if he had full reigns is a better processor of information but is an eyes up type player and likes to use his physical gifts to create something for himself (not all the time but does have a tendency to go on some solo runs). CHT i dont think could handle a 7 role but does manage well with limited decision making and a clear outlined plan.

What i think i am suggesting is that 200 decisions let say that SJ made a game as the main director and architect maybe that number is more evenly balanced amongst say TMM and Metcalfe next year and maybe that is the right balance we need as I don't think either fit the mold of a SJ as the brains behind the teams attack 2023. If this is the case we could see some really well balanced attack more than what TMM and CHT has been and could work, or it could backfire. Key thing is for Webby to adjust the gameplan accordingly,

 

[kos]

I think people are overselling the long kicking game. Its not so much a long kicking game its probably a high bomb and clinical 5th tackle kicking thats more important. We average the most metres per game in the comp and usually kick over half way on a yardage set. You probs want more hang time and placement of the kick is what you're probably implying which is a fair point.

I think the more important skill is processing information in really short amount of time. I feel SJ 2023 was processing info at a high clip and executing based off that info at probably a 80-85% completion rate per attempt. With probably close to 200 decisions a game (could be more or less just making up a number) he was making on average probably 150-175 correct decisions and executions per game.

My concern with these halves moving forward, are they good processors of information and can they make the right decisions in the short amount of time between tackle and play the ball? I feel TMM for as much as I've enjoyed him does struggle to make those decisions close to the end of a set (tackle 3-6) which usually you find alot of his options unorthodox, improvised and straight out awkward lol. Metcalfe probably if he had full reigns is a better processor of information but is an eyes up type player and likes to use his physical gifts to create something for himself (not all the time but does have a tendency to go on some solo runs). CHT i dont think could handle a 7 role but does manage well with limited decision making and a clear outlined plan.

What i think i am suggesting is that 200 decisions let say that SJ made a game as the main director and architect maybe that number is more evenly balanced amongst say TMM and Metcalfe next year and maybe that is the right balance we need as I don't think either fit the mold of a SJ as the brains behind the teams attack 2023. If this is the case we could see some really well balanced attack more than what TMM and CHT has been and could work, or it could backfire. Key thing is for Webby to adjust the gameplan accordingly,

Great post

 

[sballer7]

I really struggle to see what Wiremu Greig offers.

 

[Worried2Death]

I really struggle to see what Wiremu Greig offers.

Reminds me of a young Beastwood, maybe just hasn't found his inner beast yet.

 

[sballer7]

Reminds me of a young Beastwood, maybe just hasn't found his inner beast yet.

Greg was pretty dynamic though, guy could move especially in his young years. Greig looks slow and cumbersome. The game has passed guys like him by. As a kiwi, I hope he kicks on and becomes something, but I just don't see it yet.

 

[CWC]

I think people are overselling the long kicking game. Its not so much a long kicking game its probably a high bomb and clinical 5th tackle kicking thats more important. We average the most metres per game in the comp and usually kick over half way on a yardage set. You probs want more hang time and placement of the kick is what you're probably implying which is a fair point.

I think the more important skill is processing information in really short amount of time. I feel SJ 2023 was processing info at a high clip and executing based off that info at probably a 80-85% completion rate per attempt. With probably close to 200 decisions a game (could be more or less just making up a number) he was making on average probably 150-175 correct decisions and executions per game.

My concern with these halves moving forward, are they good processors of information and can they make the right decisions in the short amount of time between tackle and play the ball? I feel TMM for as much as I've enjoyed him does struggle to make those decisions close to the end of a set (tackle 3-6) which usually you find alot of his options unorthodox, improvised and straight out awkward lol. Metcalfe probably if he had full reigns is a better processor of information but is an eyes up type player and likes to use his physical gifts to create something for himself (not all the time but does have a tendency to go on some solo runs). CHT i dont think could handle a 7 role but does manage well with limited decision making and a clear outlined plan.

What i think i am suggesting is that 200 decisions let say that SJ made a game as the main director and architect maybe that number is more evenly balanced amongst say TMM and Metcalfe next year and maybe that is the right balance we need as I don't think either fit the mold of a SJ as the brains behind the teams attack 2023. If this is the case we could see some really well balanced attack more than what TMM and CHT has been and could work, or it could backfire. Key thing is for Webby to adjust the gameplan accordingly,

Ash? Liked your show