Recruitment Warriors 2024/2025 Recruitment & Retention

Warriors 2024/2025 Recruitment & Retention Discussion
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-​	Player​	2024​	2025​	2026​	2027​	2028​
1	Bunty Afoa	✔	✔
2	Tom Ale	✔	✔
3	Mitchell Barnett	✔	✔	✔	✔
4	The Greatest of All-Time	✔	✔	✔
5	Kurt Capewell	✔	✔	✔
6	Wayde Egan	✔	✔	✔	✔
7	Addin Fonua-Blake	✔
8	Jackson Ford	✔	✔
9	Leka Halasima	✔	✔	✔	✔
10	Tohu Harris	✔	✔
11	Chanel Harris-Tavita	✔	✔	M
12	Shaun Johnson	✔
13	Edward Kosi	✔	✔
14	Jacob Laban	✔	✔	✔
15	Ali Leiataua	✔	✔
16	Freddy Lussick	✔	✔	✔
17	Zyon Maiu’u	✔	✔	✔
18	Te Maire Martin	✔	✔
19	Luke Metcalf	✔	✔	✔
20	Marcelo Montoya	✔	✔
21	Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad	✔	✔
22	Marata Niukore	✔	✔	✔
23	Adam Pompey	✔	✔
24	Demitric Sifakula	✔	✔	C
25	Jazz Tevaga	✔
26	Taine Tuaupiki	✔	✔
27	Roger Tuivasa-Sheck	✔	✔	✔
28	Dylan Walker	✔	✔
29	Dallin Watene-Zelezniak	✔	✔
D1	Ben Farr	D
D2	Etuane Fukofuka	D
D3	Patrick Moimoi	D
D4	Tanner Stowers-Smith	D	D
-	Jett Cleary	-	D	D	D
-	James Fisher-Harris	-	✔	✔	✔	✔
-	Kalani Going	-	D
-	Motu Pasikala	-	✔	✔	✔

key: C = Club option, M = Mutual option, P = Player option, D = Development contract

Confirmed Top 30 2024: 29/30
Confirmed Development 2024: 4/6

Confirmed Top 30 2025: 28/30
Confirmed Development 2025: 4/6

2025 Gains: James Fisher-Harris (Panthers), Jett Cleary (Panthers Pathways), Kahu Capper (Roosters Pathways)
2025 Losses: Addin Fonua-Blake (Sharks), Jazz Tevaga (Contract Expired), Shaun Johnson (Retirement)
2025 Off Contract: Nil

 

[Inruin]

Also depends on when the shoulder injury happened. Before or after we agreed to a release?

 

[John Nick]

Also depends on when the shoulder injury happened. Before or after we agreed to a release?

Who knows. Could easily be a subsequent/differing specialist report

 

[Up the guttz]

Gutted for RV and hope he gets some kind of pay from somewhere….
They must not have known how bad it was, otherwise there is no way you would ask for a release when you still had 2 years left.
Since we are not paying freight you’d have to assume that he got a really good offer from St George. Asked for a release and was granted. Can’t see how there would be any come back on us.

 

[Warriorsfan92]

 

[Inruin]

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Given he was at Dragon training then I'm saying he is effectively a Dragon player and not our responsibility.

You start work, that's a contract in itself.

 

[Tookey 2.0]

Far out what an absolute clusterf*ck of a situation. Poor Ronnie, it looks like he may have been given some very poor advice on what to do by his management, unless they didn't actually know he needed surgery or was injured...

I was commenting on the situation earlier on in the week about how the whole thing came about being strange circumstances. If we've released him I can't see how we would have to pay. Even if we knew (which I hope we didn't), RV asked for a release and we obliged.

Will be interesting to see how this plays out - no contract for this year and no chance to prove himself for next year, do we offer him a minimum contract for the next year to help him out? I know it's a business etc but I think the Warriors have shown their a considerate club, might be beneficial for the club to be seen as a place who gives a shit about you as opposed to strictly being money related

 

[3rdstriker]

Sorry for Volkman but Warriors dodged a bullet.

Just wow!

Dodging a bullet is a bit ruff on poor volkman can't imagine how he be feeling after securing a contract.
Wouldn't put it past webby and co to offer him back some sort of bed if he wanted.

 

[Riz]

He had a shoulder problem last season, this is not a new thing. It will be very interesting how this ends up playing out.

 

[Fufu]

You telling me when we released him we didn’t know he had a serious injury?

Hope we did not act in bad faith off loading a player with a serious injury for another club to sign for a 1 year contract.

If this was just serious neglect from his management they should ultimately pay.

He was still training. He was doing the pre-season with us, and then doing it at the Dragons. Pretty clear that he thought it was just a niggle and something that would come right, but after having a scan, its shown structural damage.

There is no way for us to have known, the whole point of a scan is to see what the human eye can't. If he was still fulfilling training activities then there would have been no reason for us to have done any testing unless RV himself said it was bad.

I don't think this is anyone's fault, its just some bad bloody luck.

 

[WA Warrior]

He was still training. He was doing the pre-season with us, and then doing it at the Dragons. Pretty clear that he thought it was just a niggle and something that would come right, but after having a scan, its shown structural damage.

There is no way for us to have known, the whole point of a scan is to see what the human eye can't. If he was still fulfilling training activities then there would have been no reason for us to have done any testing unless RV himself said it was bad.

I don't think this is anyone's fault, it’s just some bad bloody luck.

You could be 100% right.
But there is someone to put the blame on and that is his management.
Do not get a formal release before signing your new contract, medical and all.

 

[cero_stars]

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this isa huge no from me. In what world would we have to honor the previous deal? he was training with the dragons? whose to know he didnt suffer something in their training or maybe he did it during the Christmas break?

its a terrible thing to happen to the young bloke but shame on both the dragons and his management team to have him training without having a contract lodged with the nrl

 

[John Nick]

Given he was at Dragon training then I'm saying he is effectively a Dragon player and not our responsibility.

You start work, that's a contract in itself.

Who knows as we aren't privy to the actual wording of the contract

 

[Fufu]

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looks alright here

 

[Zarjaz]

Would this be something where the RLPA would step in and help him out (injury fund etc?) if he's legally not covered by either club?

 

[Fufu]

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and who's to say it didnt happen here.

The more I think about it, how dumb from the dragons getting him into contact training, prior to doing a medical and before even lodging a contract. Amateur hour.

 

[WA Warrior]

This should highlight to the Players association that players need more protection if RV Is ultimately unemployed.
Needs to be put in place that medicals and every aspect of the contract is covered once there is a signature on the contract.
If the contract says subject to medicals and you fall over in the shower and do your knee that means your contract is void.
Surely it doesn’t work like that now.

 

[Inruin]

this isa huge no from me. In what world would we have to honor the previous deal? he was training with the dragons? whose to know he didnt suffer something in their training or maybe he did it during the Christmas break?

its a terrible thing to happen to the young bloke but shame on both the dragons and his management team to have him training without having a contract lodged with the nrl

If we have released him by mutual decision. Ie he asked and we said ok. Then there would be a process to go through, release documents to sign, communication of that to the NRL etc etc. As long as the club has done that, I agree with you. No way should we be giving up cap space or a roster spot. Be interesting to see what the RLPA and the NRL have to say about it. From what I read it sounds like he has a signed contract with the Dragons but it hasn't been lodged with the NRL yet. Is that the clubs responsibility to do? Assuming the contract has been signed, I don't think the Dragons can get out of it unless there is some medical clause in there, but I would think that's up to the club and their medical team to do the due diligence.

 

[cero_stars]

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and who's to say it didnt happen here.

The more I think about it, how dumb from the dragons getting him into contact training, prior to doing a medical and before even lodging a contract. Amateur hour.

well this is the issue i see. Dragons should of done a medical in and around when he signed his contract and def should of done medicals way before any sort of training had commenced

 

[BangBro's (still banging)]

Injury could have taken place at the Dragons! Why do the warriors need to honor that?

 

[cero_stars]

If we have released him by mutual decision. Ie he asked and we said ok. Then there would be a process to go through, release documents to sign, communication of that to the NRL etc etc. As long as the club has done that, I agree with you. No way should we be giving up cap space or a roster spot. Be interesting to see what the RLPA and the NRL have to say about it. From what I read it sounds like he has a signed contract with the Dragons but it hasn't been lodged with the NRL yet. Is that the clubs responsibility to do? Assuming the contract has been signed, I don't think the Dragons can get out of it unless there is some medical clause in there, but I would think that's up to the club and their medical team to do the due diligence.

is a medical clause normal in a young fella who as far as im aware doesnt have a history of major injuries..... plus its only a one year contract from memory