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tyrael said:
Sad.

Izzy's defense is a problem. Think his speed has gone and he's changed his style. Maybe it's time to give it up. He's made so much money already and set himself up. Multiple properties, multiple slices of businesses.
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You reckon his bows to the crowd at the end could be retirement or just acknowledging the crowd
 
tyrael said:
Nah those are just acknowledgements. When ufc fighters retire they leave their gloves in the center of the octagon.

Izzy is 35. There is no path now for him to get that belt back.
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Father time is undefeated.

That was so sad after all the content around how great his camp had been.

I disagree that theres no path at middleweight for the belt though, The division is pretty shallow talent wise.
 
juju said:
Father time is undefeated.

That was so sad after all the content around how great his camp had been.

I disagree that theres no path at middleweight for the belt though, The division is pretty shallow talent wise.
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I heard him say that submission hadn’t been a form he’d won by and would be keen and thought it came across as a bit egocentric that he could win however he felt? I might be well off the mark and that’s just his confident demeanour but I didn’t think he looked like he had enough to become champ again on what I saw this morning
 
juju said:
disagree that theres no path at middleweight for the belt though, The division is pretty shallow talent wise.
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So he just lost to #5.

He's lost to the champ and #1.

Do you see him beating Khamzat? Hell no.

Then it's Whittaker who he isn't fighting anymore. Cannonier+Vettori who he's already beaten (no status to beating them again)

The only person he hasn't fought that will help his statue is Borralho but anyone from the fighting nerds is dangerous and I think Borralho would actually send Izzy to the nether realm.

Then it's Brendan Allen and Roman Dolize ranked #9 and #10.

Izzy is now at least 3 fights away from the belt. If he wins all 3 and gets a title shot he'll be 37. But which 2 fighters above him (2 because his next fight will be someone below him) will he a) get to fight b) will beat.

Come on Juju.
 
tyrael said:
So he just lost to #5.

He's lost to the champ and #1.

Do you see him beating Khamzat? Hell no.

Then it's Whittaker who he isn't fighting anymore. Cannonier+Vettori who he's already beaten (no status to beating them again)

The only person he hasn't fought that will help his statue is Borralho but anyone from the fighting nerds is dangerous and I think Borralho would actually send Izzy to the nether realm.

Then it's Brendan Allen and Roman Dolize ranked #9 and #10.

Izzy is now at least 3 fights away from the belt. If he wins all 3 and gets a title shot he'll be 37. But which 2 fighters above him (2 because his next fight will be someone below him) will he a) get to fight b) will beat.

Come on Juju.
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Did you think Bisping would ever be champ?
Did you think Bela Muhammad would be champ?
Did you think Matt Hughes would be champ?

Weird things happen in MMA. To say there is not path back ignores the history of the sport.
He might not get back - but to say there is no path... come on tyrael
 
Also some pretty bad examples there.

Bisping was 35 when he won the title after winning 3 in a row.

Matt Hughes never got the title back after losing it.

Muhammad has won something like 10 in a row.

You tell me Izzy's path back to a titleshot and tell me why he beats those 3 fighters after watching his 3 losses on the trot. I've told you why he can't make it.
 
tyrael said:
Also some pretty bad examples there.

Bisping was 35 when he won the title after winning 3 in a row.

Matt Hughes never got the title back after losing it.

Muhammad has won something like 10 in a row.

You tell me Izzy's path back to a titleshot and tell me why he beats those 3 fighters after watching his 3 losses on the trot. I've told you why he can't make it.
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Theres a difference between no clear path right now and absolutely no path.
Weird things happen in MMA.

He's also the only two time middleweight champ ever and still draws PPV buys. So can jump the line.

Some big twisted panties by you.


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tyrael said:
Also some pretty bad examples there.

Bisping was 35 when he won the title after winning 3 in a row.

Matt Hughes never got the title back after losing it.

Muhammad has won something like 10 in a row.

You tell me Izzy's path back to a titleshot and tell me why he beats those 3 fighters after watching his 3 losses on the trot. I've told you why he can't make it.
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Strickland fights DDP.

Izzy rematches the loser and wins well.

Khamzat vs winner of strickland/ddp

Israel vs the winner.

Would he beat Khamzat maybe not. But theres a chance?

There is a path so come on now.
 
I'm a Izzy fan but the writing in on the wall.

No way does he get to fight loser of SS v DDP. I'll bet you a 6 pack.

Khamzat is next line so he won't fight Izzy.

Borralho is Izzys only real shot but I'll bet you another 6 pack he loses badly here too.

The fight game is brutal and unless you're LeBron James, father time beats all.
 
tyrael said:
I'm a Izzy fan but the writing in on the wall.

No way does he get to fight loser of SS v DDP. I'll bet you a 6 pack.

Khamzat is next line so he won't fight Izzy.

Borralho is Izzys only real shot but I'll bet you another 6 pack he loses badly here too.

The fight game is brutal and unless you're LeBron James, father time beats all.
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You're ignoring a pretty large aspect of the fight game.
The UFC need to make the fights with the fighters that have the biggest draw / followings for the content for the ESPN TV deal.
The middleweight rankingsbasically have four fighters that sell PPV / have mainstream recognition.

Imavov vs Borralho in a title contention might be the next step. We don't know.

You said there was no paths - there are a few imo/

Izzy might retire for all we know...
 
juju said:
You're ignoring a pretty large aspect of the fight game.
The UFC need to make the fights with the fighters that have the biggest draw / followings for the content for the ESPN TV deal.
The middleweight rankingsbasically have four fighters that sell PPV / have mainstream recognition.

Imavov vs Borralho in a title contention might be the next step. We don't know.

You said there was no paths - there are a few imo/

Izzy might retire for all we know...
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I wouldn’t be surprised to be honest. Doesn’t strike me as someone who’d want to tarnish his career too much and 3 losses on the trot now. Seems like he’s financially stable, so now would be a good time I reckon
 
Noitall said:
I wouldn’t be surprised to be honest. Doesn’t strike me as someone who’d want to tarnish his career too much and 3 losses on the trot now. Seems like he’s financially stable, so now would be a good time I reckon
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Yeah I think I'd prefer if he did. Don't risk getting KO'd anymore - now the reactions have slowed and he's not taking shots as well.
 
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