NRL NRL ROUND 6 GENERAL DISCUSSION

still think webby>ciraldo>Benji in terms of young coaches. Webby and Cirro have made the top 4 once and the top 8 twice in 3 years. Benji still hasn't made the finals yet and he's currently in his 3rd year.

Benji out of those three is the one with the worst prep to become an NRL coach and inherited the worst starting point.

Everyone thought it was a joke, and that Marshal would get embarrassed.
 
Benji out of those three is the one with the worst prep to become an NRL coach and inherited the worst starting point.

Everyone thought it was a joke, and that Marshal would get embarrassed.
I'd argue that Wests and the Dogs have done the most to import the Penrith premiership winning rosters from 2022-2023. It was only a matter of time before those two teams started experiencing turnarounds in their on-field performance. Conversely, Webby has built his own roster from scratch, turning young guns into studs and Aussie discards into origin level players.
 
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still think webby>ciraldo>Benji in terms of young coaches. Webby and Cirro have made the top 4 once and the top 8 twice. Benji still hasn't made the finals yet.

Ooooo this is a good one.

I think Ciro has done better, but has had more to work with.

Overall though, I think we got the better one for our situation. We need a coach who can do more with 'less'.

Benji looks to have built something decent, but the season will determine whether or not it's true in the context of comparisons.

Who else could you consider?

Toddy? No.
Ryles? Too early
Hannay? Same as Ryles.
 
I'd argue that Wests and the Dogs have done the most to import the Penrith premiership winning rosters from 2022-2023. It was only a matter of time before those two teams started experiencing turnarounds in their on-field performance. Conversely, Webby has built his own roster from scratch, turning young guns into studs and Aussie discards into origin level players.

Bro the Tigers are a cancer to work for. Worst administration in the game, endless in fighting, wooden spoon specials.

Where did Benji go to coaching school? It wasn't the Penrith Panthers.
 
Benji out of those three is the one with the worst prep to become an NRL coach and inherited the worst starting point.

For sure.

That club was and still is, in some ways, an absolute turd.

What he has done is nothing short of impressive, considering he basically had to figure everything out as he went and fight people internally.
 
Ooooo this is a good one.

I think Ciro has done better, but has had more to work with.

Overall though, I think we got the better one for our situation. We need a coach who can do more with 'less'.

Benji looks to have built something decent, but the season will determine whether or not it's true in the context of comparisons.

Who else could you consider?

Toddy? No.
Ryles? Too early
Hannay? Same as Ryles.
Yeah I agree. Having Phil Gould fiddle things for you must be nice. I mean if Webby was at the dogs and could get Gus to do his magic to get him his perfect roster, don't you think the Dogs would be doing better? Webby imo has shown much better player management skills- how many players have come here as discards and turned around their careers? I don't really think you can say the same about Ciraldo.
 
But Ciro also has more resources than Webby which should be factored in. Having Phil Gould fiddle things for you must be nice. I mean if Webby was at the dogs and could get Gus to do his magic to get him his perfect roster, don't you think the Dogs would be doing better? Webby imo has shown much better player management skills- how many players have come here as discards and turned around their careers? I don't really think you can say the same about Ciraldo.

You could argue that Webby has the largest and easiest to lure talent pool out of any club.

You could also argue that the tigers are basically rotten from the top down as an organization.

Ciraldo has Gus Gould and a fan base that won't stop fighting visiting fans.

Like, what's the prioritization, here?
 
Yeah I agree. Having Phil Gould fiddle things for you must be nice. I mean if Webby was at the dogs and could get Gus to do his magic to get him his perfect roster, don't you think the Dogs would be doing better? Webby imo has shown much better player management skills- how many players have come here as discards and turned around their careers? I don't really think you can say the same about Ciraldo.
Tbf I do think Ciro has turned some players careers around eg Connor Tracey and Max King and developed some into genuine talent like Preston and Kiraz
 
You could argue that Webby has the largest and easiest to lure talent pool out of any club.

You could also argue that the tigers are basically rotten from the top down as an organization.

Ciraldo has Gus Gould and a fan base that won't stop fighting visiting fans.

Like, what's the prioritization, here?
I agree that all this is subjective. They are three good coaches and on different metrics you can come to different conclusions. In terms of tangible results, again not discounting how dysfunctional the tigers organization are, webby vs cirro is probably the more appropriate comparison to make. If Benji achieves something this year (ie finals), then he probably joins the conversation too.
 
I agree that all this is subjective. They are three good coaches and on different metrics you can come to different conclusions. In terms of tangible results, again not discounting how dysfunctional the tigers organization are, webby vs cirro is probably the more appropriate comparison to make. If Benji achieves something this year (ie finals), then he probably joins the conversation too.

I'm perfectly happy to discuss a top3 of anything. I just think the most difficult part is figuring out what points of comparison there are and which ones are more important than the others.

For example...

Travel Time: 3-Webby, 2-Benji, 1- Cirro? I dunno Sydney geography.

Media Pressure: 3-Cirro, 2-Benji, 1-Webby.

Once you establish all that, then you can argue anything really.
 
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