NRL NRL Expansion

[Matiunz]

Actually, good point.what colours will they use? Black and white obviously for the Orca and maybe seal blood red?

Their logo implies Black/White with red highlights

 

[Matiunz]

You’d be weary of anything Graham Lowe has to do with anything with his past track record at the Warriors

And with Bradford, then look into Chalmers history with Bradford and the Titans and it looks pretty dicey

 

[tyrael]

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[Matiunz]

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Yeah that seems to be the top comparison people are making. Not sure what the need is for the 2nd albino orca except maaaaybe making some crude ‘S’ ?

 

[tyrael]

Yeah that seems to be the top comparison people are making. Not sure what the need is for the 2nd albino orca except maaaaybe making some crude ‘S’ ?

Warriors yin to their yang

 

[Ref]

If the Orcas think they are advancing their prospects by having Lowe and Chalmers on board they have been hoodwinked and are delusional.
They might have the money for now….

 

[Worried2Death]

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Don't know what to make of that, they look kind of soulless swimming around in a dark void, cartoonish yet vaguely menacing with a hint of Joseph Goebbels. Should go down well in Canterbury.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

They might have the money for now….

Do they actually have the cash? Two men of low integrity can find 100 ways to bluff and bullshit though. I doubt they have tens of millions liquid in the bank.

 

[snake77]

And with Bradford, then look into Chalmers history with Bradford and the Titans and it looks pretty dicey

The other name that stand out is Michael Searle. He helped get the Titans off the ground so on the face of it he would be useful getting a new club off the ground. Mind you that was over 15 years ago.

I remember the end of his tenure at the Titans had a lot of headlines around it. I looked it up and it was due to the Titans having a lot of debt.

 

[Playdaball]

The new SI orcas team has a Tainui feel about it

 

[WahsaurusRex]

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It could also be seen as..

Not sure what the need is for the 2nd albino orca except maaaaybe making some crude ‘S’ ?

Dolphins are sex freaks, aren't they? That could be it lol

 

[Noitall]

The new SI orcas team has a Tainui feel about it

That would be a concern after their and Lowe’s last venture together

 

[Falcon]

And with Bradford, then look into Chalmers history with Bradford and the Titans and it looks pretty dicey

You raise a good point. It’s a bid you really want to believe in but feel cautiously nervous about its true viability.
It’s a bit like if you meet someone for the first time and before you know it they start telling you how wealthy they are.
It normally means they are not. #redflag
I was talking with someone who has an insight to one of the bids. They are frustrated with the NRL and their current lack of transparency and clear feedback what they need to do to to get the bid up to speed for potential acceptance.

 

[tyrael]

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Dolphins are sex freaks, aren't they? That could be it lol

Takes one to know one

 

[Wrighty]

You raise a good point. It’s a bid you really want to believe in but feel cautiously nervous about its true viability.
It’s a bit like if you meet someone for the first time and before you know it they start telling you how wealthy they are.
It normally means they are not. #redflag
I was talking with someone who has an insight to one of the bids. They are frustrated with the NRL and their current lack of transparency and clear feedback what they need to do to to get the bid up to speed for potential acceptance.

Tell them to hire a consultant to advise them. Don't make it the NRLs job to make a cookie cutter business case template.
They could also interview the Dolphins who I am sure would give them an hour or two of their time,

 

[mrblonde]

You raise a good point. It’s a bid you really want to believe in but feel cautiously nervous about its true viability.
It’s a bit like if you meet someone for the first time and before you know it they start telling you how wealthy they are.
It normally means they are not. #redflag
I was talking with someone who has an insight to one of the bids. They are frustrated with the NRL and their current lack of transparency and clear feedback what they need to do to to get the bid up to speed for potential acceptance.

As I recall, that was a large part of South Sydney's argument for re-admittance to the NRL in their 2001 court case: That the NRL were not transparent, that the criteria they expected the Rabbitohs to meet was either vague or kept changing and that the Rabbitohs were left constantly in the dark as to A) Why they were turfed out in the first place and B) What they needed to do, given they didn't get a clear answer to A) to get back in to the NRL.

You kind of get the feeling that the NRL actually don't want expansion. Which, given player depth, etc and the issues involved in the current competition, you may or may not understand and agree with. Personally, I don't see a 20 team competition working. Too many weak teams involved as players will play for unders to stick with one of the current 17 clubs. It's bad enough now...

 

[Matiunz]

As I recall, that was a large part of South Sydney's argument for re-admittance to the NRL in their 2001 court case: That the NRL were not transparent, that the criteria they expected the Rabbitohs to meet was either vague or kept changing and that the Rabbitohs were left constantly in the dark as to A) Why they were turfed out in the first place and B) What they needed to do, given they didn't get a clear answer to A) to get back in to the NRL.

You kind of get the feeling that the NRL actually don't want expansion. Which, given player depth, etc and the issues involved in the current competition, you may or may not understand and agree with. Personally, I don't see a 20 team competition working. Too many weak teams involved as players will play for unders to stick with one of the current 17 clubs. It's bad enough now...

Can imagine the clubs aren’t too happy about more competition for resources.
NRL keep ‘trying to keep up with the jones’ with AFL but AFLs last 2 and soon to be their next expansion franchises are absolute money pits that collectively all the other clubs are paying for- are our clubs wary of this? Things are looking pretty rosey financially for clubs but it wasn’t so long ago that there were a few close to going under

 

[Teets]

Can imagine the clubs aren’t too happy about more competition for resources.
NRL keep ‘trying to keep up with the jones’ with AFL but AFLs last 2 and soon to be their next expansion franchises are absolute money pits that collectively all the other clubs are paying for- are our clubs wary of this? Things are looking pretty rosey financially for clubs but it wasn’t so long ago that there were a few close to going under

I think the NRL would be pretty conscious of added value with any new team.

I.e NZ2 would need to generate an upgraded Sky TV rights deal that offsets their club grant.

 

[snake77]

As I recall, that was a large part of South Sydney's argument for re-admittance to the NRL in their 2001 court case: That the NRL were not transparent, that the criteria they expected the Rabbitohs to meet was either vague or kept changing and that the Rabbitohs were left constantly in the dark as to A) Why they were turfed out in the first place and B) What they needed to do, given they didn't get a clear answer to A) to get back in to the NRL.

You kind of get the feeling that the NRL actually don't want expansion. Which, given player depth, etc and the issues involved in the current competition, you may or may not understand and agree with. Personally, I don't see a 20 team competition working. Too many weak teams involved as players will play for unders to stick with one of the current 17 clubs. It's bad enough now...

I wasn't aware of that. But, it is a good argument from the lawyers representing Souths.

There was criteria at the time around finances, crowd numbers etc. My recollection the crowd figures weren't great and the Sydney clubs started counting the players, coaching staff, officials in the crowd numbers. Basically everyone in the building. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a select few clubs in mind for the chop and then didn't really go over the criteria with Souths at the end. I remember the Balmain and Western Suburbs merger through them out as the expectation was a strong club merging with a weak club. Not,

Smart by the lawyers. Yes. Now in saying that I remember Souths wanting the criteria to not apply to them. But it should apply to everyone else.

The last time we had a 20 team competition there was some really weak teams. Hopefully, that was due to the rush to get the new teams in. They should have admitted the 2 teams at that time instead of 4. It was like they didn't want to disappoint some of the bids.

Hopefully this staggered approach works out better. They should get to 18 teams and stay there for a few years then either to 19 or 20.

 

[Worried2Death]

I wasn't aware of that. But, it is a good argument from the lawyers representing Souths.

There was criteria at the time around finances, crowd numbers etc. My recollection the crowd figures weren't great and the Sydney clubs started counting the players, coaching staff, officials in the crowd numbers. Basically everyone in the building. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a select few clubs in mind for the chop and then didn't really go over the criteria with Souths at the end. I remember the Balmain and Western Suburbs merger through them out as the expectation was a strong club merging with a weak club. Not,

Smart by the lawyers. Yes. Now in saying that I remember Souths wanting the criteria to not apply to them. But it should apply to everyone else.

The last time we had a 20 team competition there was some really weak teams. Hopefully, that was due to the rush to get the new teams in. They should have admitted the 2 teams at that time instead of 4. It was like they didn't want to disappoint some of the bids.

Hopefully this staggered approach works out better. They should get to 18 teams and stay there for a few years then either to 19 or 20.

If they overturn that case we might all get what we want, an excuse to kick Souths out of the comp again