Staff Andrew Webster

[Cces]

Honestly our peak last year was when Metcalf was fit and Afoa starting, with 4 bench forwards, when the bench went down to 3 forwards we went really meh for over a month and the only great game we played was the Knights knock out game

At the risk of coming off as a prick I just need to correct this to ease my OCD.
Metcalf at #6 & Bunty starting occurred 8 times for 6 wins. Our best scalp was the 8th placed Raiders. Freddy Lussick was on the Interchange bench for 4 of these games (3W-1L)

 

[CWC]

At the risk of coming off as a prick I just need to correct this to ease my OCD.
Metcalf at #6 & Bunty starting occurred 8 times for 6 wins. Our best scalp was the 8th placed Raiders. Freddy Lussick was on the Interchange bench for 4 of these games (3W-1L)

All good.

Raiders was 8-5 ranked 6th at the time, and without Lussick on the bench we were also 3-1 based on that stats

We need 4 forwards the way our pack is going this year IMHO

 

[BangBro's (still banging)]

At the risk of coming off as a prick I just need to correct this to ease my OCD.
Metcalf at #6 & Bunty starting occurred 8 times for 6 wins. Our best scalp was the 8th placed Raiders. Freddy Lussick was on the Interchange bench for 4 of these games (3W-1L)

Now how much do I put on the win?

 

[CWC]

Now how much do I put on the win?

Put it in your Flexi mortgage account to save daily 8% interest for the win

 

[Ever Hopeful]

Bench for just the Warriors games. Opposition minutes in brackets

v Sharks 118/0 (137). Egan could only play 30 odd minutes.
v Storm 87/8 (79)
v Raiders 96/12 (147)
v Knights 143/23 (102). Metcalf injured in the 9th minute.
v Souths 93/8 (102)
v Manly 68/9 (120). The most any of our bench got was 22 minutes in 90 minutes of football.
v Dragons 60/3 (124)
v Titans 96/0 (145)
v Knights 93/0 (112). Capewell injured from the 25th.

From our coaching whanau:

The snapshot from earlier was an outlier for the Dogs. They are doing big minutes off the bench and using all of their players.

The Panthers are generally using big minutes for 3 and keeping Laurie back for injury cover.

I guess Webster is not too happy with the depth at the club at them moment (obviously exacerbated by injury)

 

[Stalefish540]

Craig Bellamy dominated the NRL and is the greatest modern era coach because he ignored the calls to change his system despite everyone in the competition throwing curve balls at his system, none more so than the Warriors.

Craig Bellamy's system is the most read and understood predictable template in NRL history, everyone, right down to us dumb fans know exactly what the Storm is going to do. Yet they keep on winning nearly every game in a season, they continue being a bench mark, even when they are thrashed in the big dance, what they have because of their system and predictability is incredible, we all know the script, yet they more than any win most games against anyone.

Craig Bellamy stuck by his system despite the NRL changing the rules of the game to undermine his system year on year. Anti wrestling rules like six agains and chicken wing bans did not deter Craig from keeping his grinding boring ass fun killing style of Kung Fu.

If we learned anything from the most structured and systematized club in the NRL it is that you should suck up your losses and continue to deliver consistent football for the long term investment in winning percentages.

The problem with the Warriors is not the system, the problem is that they do not have the pedigree to suck it up and soldier on when their system is failing.

My issue with the Warriors is that at the first sign of trouble they start to fail at delivering the system, my argument is that rather than abandoned that right edge attack when it fails, is that they need to try harder and push at it longer and accurately to to find the short fall.

Quite simply, when we are stopped on our right edge attack we should see it as a win anyway. Because a game plan that put you there is a winning game plan, that you did not score is not the problem, it is just what happens in a percentage and outcomes based exercise, but the more we run that move in a game it means the more time we have won all the metrics to get us there in the first place.
This is why i can see Webster is still an excellent coach, we are inches and yards away from being a success. The template, the plan, the structures are great, this team needs to lean into the metrics and continue.

The opposite of a lot of what I read here about abandoning the plan and and reinventing the wheel.

Swimming up stream around here, but I love the fact that Webster is pissing off lots of fans by sticking to his own ideas. I believe that is the long term solve of our inconsistency.

I can see what you are trying to say, but it doesn't really line up in this situation.

Bellamy has always innovated when the game has changed the rules. That's the reason why they have continued to stay up the top of the table for so long, and why his position has gone unquestioned for 20 years.

The Storm play and have played plenty of football for quite a few years now. They use the full spread of the field and attack you from anywhere as do all the top teams, with a heap of variation in their kicks also.

We only attack in the red zone, and then only use half of the field when we are there. Our kicking game in the opposition half is about as rigid as our attack. High kick right and pin with no contest, noone else in the NRL does this.

I struggle to think of a team as rigid as us in as long as I can remember. So while I see what you are trying to say and could agree if our game plan was more varied. The parallels between Bellamy and what Webby is doing don't really align as Bellamy would never pigeon-hole himself to this extent.

 

[CWC]

I can see what you are trying to say, but it doesn't really line up in this situation.

Bellamy has always innovated when the game has changed the rules. That's the reason why they have continued to stay up the top of the table for so long, and why his position has gone unquestioned for 20 years.

The Storm play and have played plenty of football for quite a few years now. They use the full spread of the field and attack you from anywhere as do all the top teams, with a heap of variation in their kicks also.

We only attack in the red zone, and then only use half of the field when we are there. Our kicking game in the opposition half is about as rigid as our attack. High kick right and pin with no contest, noone else in the NRL does this.

I struggle to think of a team as rigid as us in as long as I can remember. So while I see what you are trying to say and could agree if our game plan was more varied. The parallels between Bellamy and what Webby is doing don't really align as Bellamy would never pigeon-hole himself to this extent.

Their problem is the attack drills are so focused and limited for the red zone yet they’re still clunky af and predictable after 9 rounds

 

[TR73]

Looking at the havoc Isaac Moses has helped flame at the Eels it worries me that he is Websters manager. If and when Isaac gets a better offer for him at another club or doesn’t like what we are doing with the players under his management he can tear a club apart.
Sydney journalists are reluctant to comment on agents because they are their biggest sources of information.

 

[Rick O’Shay]

Looking at the havoc Isaac Moses has helped flame at the Eels it worries me that he is Websters manager. If and when Isaac gets a better offer for him at another club or doesn’t like what we are doing with the players under his management he can tear a club apart.
Sydney journalists are reluctant to comment on agents because they are their biggest sources of information.

Thought I read on here somewhere that Webby manages himself. Has that changed?

 

[TR73]

Thought I read on here somewhere that Webby manages himself. Has that changed?

In the Sydney Morning Herald he is listed as being managed by Moses. Now that Arthur is gone he is agitating for one of his clients to get the role. He controls Mitchell Moses, Penisini and a host of others which makes him by default a keep player. The NRL and NRLPA should take a stand on this and determine that manages cannot manage both players and coaches. Player managers have no interest in the fans or season ticket holders

 

[Christchurch_Warrior]

In the Sydney Morning Herald he is listed as being managed by Moses. Now that Arthur is gone he is agitating for one of his clients to get the role. He controls Mitchell Moses, Penisini and a host of others which makes him by default a keep player. The NRL and NRLPA should take a stand on this and determine that manages cannot manage both players and coaches. Player managers have no interest in the fans or season ticket holders

On Cove Agency socials there is no sign of Webster. Thought he would have got a mention when he won the coach of the year. Hoping he is like Wayne Bennett and represents himself. So dodgy that agents can represent both players and coaches. Peak NRL.

 

[TR73]

On Cove Agency socials there is no sign of Webster. Thought he would have got a mention when he won the coach of the year. Hoping he is like Wayne Bennett and represents himself. So dodgy that agents can represent both players and coaches. Peak NRL.

Hopefully that is the case and he is confident in his future and our leadership

 

[j_p]

Hopefully that is the case and he is confident in his future and our leadership

I think the mention in the Sydney Herald may have been a mistake.



From last year.

‘Deserves reward’: Warriors kick off fresh talks to extend rookie coach Webster long term

‘Deserves reward’: Warriors kick off fresh talks to extend rookie coach Webster long term

www.google.com

“We’ve had some discussions already, but we said we will talk about his future after the season. It will be him and me sitting down, he doesn’t have a manager, and I like to talk like that"

 

[Blain]

I think the mention in the Sydney Herald may have been a mistake.



From last year.

‘Deserves reward’: Warriors kick off fresh talks to extend rookie coach Webster long term

‘Deserves reward’: Warriors kick off fresh talks to extend rookie coach Webster long term

www.google.com

If the SMH is correct (99.5% unlikely, think they are following James Hooper who mentioned that he was managed by Cove on 360), it would be the biggest F U by Webster to Robbo, following the Lodge saga. See below for those that weren't around 4 years ago.

Warriors set to cut players tied to controversial agent

The Warriors will move on Blake Green and other players managed by Moses.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Just imagine going from no manager, to Isaac Moses who has basically been black listed by the owner himself.

Just on Webster, James Graham has basically told the Eels 2 nights in a row on NRL 360 to get Webster to break his contract at the Warriors. Crazy stuff, and we get slammed as dodgey when JFH signs for us..

 

[Victor_Radley's_Scrotum]

If the SMH is correct (99.5% unlikely, think they are following James Hooper who mentioned that he was managed by Cove on 360), it would be the biggest F U by Webster to Robbo, following the Lodge saga. See below for those that weren't around 4 years ago.

Warriors set to cut players tied to controversial agent

The Warriors will move on Blake Green and other players managed by Moses.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Just imagine going from no manager, to Isaac Moses who has basically been black listed by the owner himself.

Just on Webster, James Graham has basically told the Eels 2 nights in a row on NRL 360 to get Webster to break his contract at the Warriors. Crazy stuff, and we get slammed as dodgey when JFH signs for us..

Crazy isn't it. Real "rules for thee but not for me" vibes. Fuck all of them.

 

[BangBro's (still banging)]

If the SMH is correct (99.5% unlikely, think they are following James Hooper who mentioned that he was managed by Cove on 360), it would be the biggest F U by Webster to Robbo, following the Lodge saga. See below for those that weren't around 4 years ago.

Warriors set to cut players tied to controversial agent

The Warriors will move on Blake Green and other players managed by Moses.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Just imagine going from no manager, to Isaac Moses who has basically been black listed by the owner himself.

Just on Webster, James Graham has basically told the Eels 2 nights in a row on NRL 360 to get Webster to break his contract at the Warriors. Crazy stuff, and we get slammed as dodgey when JFH signs for us..

360 can go fuck themselves in orifice! I'm sorry to be vulgar but I have a real hate for that show and everything it stands for!

 

[sup42]

360 can go fuck themselves in orifice! I'm sorry to be vulgar but I have a real hate for that show and everything it stands for!

Bunch of Panel monkeys.

Stopped watching it years ago, the old wind bags feigning passionate argument Jerry Springer TV did it for me.

 

[CWC]

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George said 0 chance, none.

 

[BangBro's (still banging)]

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George said 0 chance, none.

Can anyone open this?

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Craig Bellamy dominated the NRL and is the greatest modern era coach because he ignored the calls to change his system despite everyone in the competition throwing curve balls at his system, none more so than the Warriors.

Craig Bellamy's system is the most read and understood predictable template in NRL history, everyone, right down to us dumb fans know exactly what the Storm is going to do. Yet they keep on winning nearly every game in a season, they continue being a bench mark, even when they are thrashed in the big dance, what they have because of their system and predictability is incredible, we all know the script, yet they more than any win most games against anyone.

Craig Bellamy stuck by his system despite the NRL changing the rules of the game to undermine his system year on year. Anti wrestling rules like six agains and chicken wing bans did not deter Craig from keeping his grinding boring ass fun killing style of Kung Fu.

If we learned anything from the most structured and systematized club in the NRL it is that you should suck up your losses and continue to deliver consistent football for the long term investment in winning percentages.

The problem with the Warriors is not the system, the problem is that they do not have the pedigree to suck it up and soldier on when their system is failing.

My issue with the Warriors is that at the first sign of trouble they start to fail at delivering the system, my argument is that rather than abandoned that right edge attack when it fails, is that they need to try harder and push at it longer and accurately to to find the short fall.

Quite simply, when we are stopped on our right edge attack we should see it as a win anyway. Because a game plan that put you there is a winning game plan, that you did not score is not the problem, it is just what happens in a percentage and outcomes based exercise, but the more we run that move in a game it means the more time we have won all the metrics to get us there in the first place.
This is why i can see Webster is still an excellent coach, we are inches and yards away from being a success. The template, the plan, the structures are great, this team needs to lean into the metrics and continue.

The opposite of a lot of what I read here about abandoning the plan and and reinventing the wheel.

Swimming up stream around here, but I love the fact that Webster is pissing off lots of fans by sticking to his own ideas. I believe that is the long term solve of our inconsistency.

Going to have to criticise you again big dog. Melbourne aren’t the 3x reigning champs…