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MrFrankWhite said:
What on earth are you even on about? You asserted 3 people werent the boss of the federal govt to which I countered the Trump actually was. WTF are you talking about emails for.

What blatant disinformation of what govt finances?
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The civil servant's report to whoever is their line of management in their employment contract.
Idiots that festishize Elon Musk think this is a good idea but it's a very very silly publicity stunt.
 
Wonder if US will leave NATO with Trumps opinion it's a drain on US resources and him even encouraging Russia to attack NATO countries not meeting defense spending commitments last year? New German Chancellor Merz also saying US becoming a less dependable ally with all the tariffs and international policy coming out of the Trump administration and wanting to unite Europe. Looks like we could be in for a massive change in world order.
 
juju said:
The civil servant's report to whoever is their line of management in their employment contract.
Idiots that festishize Elon Musk think this is a good idea but it's a very very silly publicity stunt.
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Ohh please give me your interpretation on the separation of powers and how it drastically differs from the US Supreme Court. 🤣. I’m dying to hear it.

Musk might be all sort of retard, but it’s not silly and it’s not a publicity stunt. Both side of politics have had their nose in the trough and it’s high time it’s all exposed.
 
MrFrankWhite said:
Ohh please give me your interpretation on the separation of powers and how it drastically differs from the US Supreme Court. 🤣. I’m dying to hear it.

Musk might be all sort of retard, but it’s not silly and it’s not a publicity stunt. Both side of politics have had their nose in the trough and it’s high time it’s all exposed.
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How exactly will a neoliberalism fascist oligarch aauthoritarian dictatorship do that exactly frank? Given that they are the swamp?
 
Worried2Death said:
What's China’s place in the new order, is it the multipolar one Xi has planned? Looks like the enemy's at the gate in the Tasman right now.
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The states have been parading their warships and building military bases around China for a century now.

You're talking about a civilisation that teaches their youth about the 'century of humiliation' as the foundation of their country.

It's tit for tat at this point and I don't really blame them.
 
Warriorshopeful said:
Wonder if US will leave NATO with Trumps opinion it's a drain on US resources and him even encouraging Russia to attack NATO countries not meeting defense spending commitments last year? New German Chancellor Merz also saying US becoming a less dependable ally with all the tariffs and international policy coming out of the Trump administration and wanting to unite Europe. Looks like we could be in for a massive change in world order.
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Looking forward to creating a new thread called the New World order.

Having such an important topic bogged down in a Trump thread is an insult to the gravity of this looming Apocalypse.

When the internet came along, people dropped "new world" bombs all over the interweb, they used it so loosely, as a one size fits all boogie man that fits their own personal dystopian worm holes.

In the west the New World order tended to be a false belief that socialist minded progressive leaders would take over the world and force people to share resources, force them to be socially compliant, which from my pov was more about Misogynists and Racists for not wanting their right to be racist, sexist arseholes who can say and do whatever they want - inventing this whole Jacinda Adern type syndrome - this anti female - anti tolerance. Going so far as to make up lies about people like Adern having a secret agenda to take over the UN with the backing of Black Rock etc....bugger me....it is the Trumpists that have a social control agenda and it is in your face.

Or for other groups in the west the New World order probably meant the Chinese or some other non western culture taking over the the bastion of White control of the planet.

Then there is the religious Christian fundamentalist for whom new world order means the rise of the Antichrist who will be an all powerful leader of nations and the global economy, a leader that will end all war, and manipulate good people into following Satan.

Ironically, or spookily, what is happening with Trump best fits with definition three, the batshit crazy Antichrist delusion.

Moral of the story you are all going to hell. Especially Trump and Elons fans, Elon is probably Damien, he looks the type.

You have to laugh. Bottom line the New World order is now. It has already happened, the day the Yanks voted in Trump.

(Take the religious content in this post as intended - tongue in cheek).
 
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sup42 said:
Looking forward to creating a new thread called the New World order.

Having such an important topic bogged down in a Trump thread is an insult to the gravity of this looming Apocalypse.

When the internet came along, people dropped "new world" bombs all over the interweb, they used it so loosely, as a one size fits all boogie man that fits their own personal dystopian worm holes.

In the west the New World order tended to be a false belief that socialist minded progressive leaders would take over the world and force people to share resources, force them to be socially compliant, which from my pov was more about Misogynists and Racists for not wanting their right to be racist, sexist arseholes who can say and do whatever they want - inventing this whole Jacinda Adern type syndrome - this anti female - anti tolerance. Going so far as to make up lies about people like Adern having a secret agenda to take over the UN with the backing of Black Rock etc....bugger me....it is the Trumpists that have a social control agenda and it is in your face.

Or for other groups in the west the New World order probably meant the Chinese or some other non western culture taking over the the bastion of White control of the planet.

Then there is the religious Christian fundamentalist for whom new world order means the rise of the Antichrist who will be an all powerful leader of nations and the global economy, a leader that will end all war, and manipulate good people into following Satan.

Ironically, or spookily, what is happening with Trump best fits with definition three, the batshit crazy Antichrist delusion.

Moral of the story you are all going to hell. Especially Trump and Elons fans, Elon is probably Damien, he looks the type.

You have to laugh. Bottom line the New World order is now. It has already happened, the day the Yanks voted in Trump.

(Take the religious content in this post as intended - tongue in cheek).
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If Europe go it alone, and have a single currency and a single government, that would make them The New World Order.

You and Ju struggle to understand how the US government is even structured so I might take your thesis with a grain of salt.
 
MrFrankWhite said:
If Europe go it alone, and have a single currency and a single government, that would make them The New World Order.

You and Ju struggle to understand how the US government is even structured so I might take your thesis with a grain of salt.
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Trumpian thinking strikes again.

"Europe started it"
 
sup42 said:
Trumpian thinking strikes again.

"Europe started it"
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Our ancestors fought incrediably bloody conflicts over European conceived 'new world order' narratives.

Our vehicle standards are heavily controlled by European standards.

Hell, our relationship with Britain was completely scuttled by EU demands.

I'm not sure that you can conclusively say that they don't try and impose their own will on how the world should look like.

The funny thing with America voting in an isolationist minded person, is that they are attempting to end this habit of Western interventionalism (culturally invasive practices) and are showing that they are only interested in what happens in their own borders.
 
sup42 said:
Trumpian thinking strikes again.

"Europe started it"
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Not at all. Simply knowing the meaning of words.

US/Russia as you state it, would simply be an alliance, no difference to the last 75 years that the US has been aggressively achieving its political objectives through military force.

If Europe fully pursues a singular army and government , to go along with their currency, I think the term New World Order is fitting seeing as you introduced it.
 
FormerlyJamesW said:
Our ancestors fought incrediably bloody conflicts over European conceived 'new world order' narratives.

Our vehicle standards are heavily controlled by European standards.

Hell, our relationship with Britain was completely scuttled by EU demands.

I'm not sure that you can conclusively say that they don't try and impose their own will on how the world should look like.

The funny thing with America voting in an isolationist minded person, is that they are attempting to end this habit of Western interventionalism (culturally invasive practices) and are showing that they are only interested in what happens in their own borders.
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America, trump, musk, are invading all over the place
 
MrFrankWhite said:
If Europe go it alone, and have a single currency and a single government, that would make them The New World Order.

You and Ju struggle to understand how the US government is even structured so I might take your thesis with a grain of salt.
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You struggle to understand which Donald Trump posts are real or not

So excuse meeeee for taking the screeds you write with a grain of salt.
 

UN adopts Europe-led resolution that reaffirms Ukraine supportpublished at 17:17​

17:17​


The results of voting on a draft resolution are shown on screen
IMAGE SOURCE, EPA
Over in New York, the United Nations General Assembly has been meeting all morning on the third anniversary of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

It has just adopted one resolution - drafted by the EU and the UK - to mark the anniversary, which reaffirms the UN's "commitment to the sovereignty, independence, unity and territorial integrity of Ukraine".

A resolution, when passed, is used to formally express the opinion or will of the international organisation.

The resolution needed the support of two-thirds of those voting to pass - 93 states voted in favour, 18 against and 65 abstained.

The US opposed the resolution - instead filing its own, which makes no reference to backing Ukraine's territorial integrity, and refers to Russia's invasion as a "conflict”


So America are now voting in the UN alongsidethe rogues gallery of Russia , North Korea and Belarus. All because Trump is compromised
 
Hardyman's Yugo said:

UN adopts Europe-led resolution that reaffirms Ukraine supportpublished at 17:17​

17:17​


The results of voting on a draft resolution are shown on screen
IMAGE SOURCE, EPA
Over in New York, the United Nations General Assembly has been meeting all morning on the third anniversary of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

It has just adopted one resolution - drafted by the EU and the UK - to mark the anniversary, which reaffirms the UN's "commitment to the sovereignty, independence, unity and territorial integrity of Ukraine".

A resolution, when passed, is used to formally express the opinion or will of the international organisation.

The resolution needed the support of two-thirds of those voting to pass - 93 states voted in favour, 18 against and 65 abstained.

The US opposed the resolution - instead filing its own, which makes no reference to backing Ukraine's territorial integrity, and refers to Russia's invasion as a "conflict”


So America are now voting in the UN alongsidethe rogues gallery of Russia , North Korea and Belarus. All because Trump is compromised
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It is just bizarre that people justify Trump when he is a clear enemy of the Western world and Rogue dictator.
 
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