Politics 🤡 Donald Trump

[MrFrankWhite]

That’s what we rely on results for, and when you’re saying they don’t apply to you, why should they apply to anyone?

What batshit nonsense is this? Can someone translate?

 

[Bay39er]

I've lived and voted in both NZ and Australia. I've actually met Peter and worked with his products. Absolute brain worms. Look at what hes saying...

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For those of us who are thick break down what he is saying and point out which of the statements are actually true "in every other Western democracy"

 

[Noitall]

I read it to say he believes the election should be more secure,

Surely the biggest part of a secure election is controlling the outside interference, like Russia or China? There seems to be a push to demonise the opposing side rather than the outside interference

 

[MrFrankWhite]

For those of us who are thick break down what he is saying and point out which of the statements are actually true "in every other Western democracy"

From what I can tell

• Election day is singular
• Our pecentage of absentee ballots is much lower. NZ 20%, Aus is fkd cos of pre vote in person but 10% US 46%
• Voter ID
• High registrations / mandatory
• US has eased most restrictions continuallly for >20years

 

[dean]

Surely the biggest part of a secure election is controlling the outside interference, like Russia or China? There seems to be a push to demonise the opposing side rather than the outside interference

Not sure it is the biggest part. Making sure internal interference and stuff like multiple voting, secure ballots and that kind of thing. Accusing the opposition is a two way street. If your internal stuff is fool proof it becomes irrelevant.

 

[Noitall]

Not sure it is the biggest part. Making sure internal interference and stuff like multiple voting, secure ballots and that kind of thing. Accusing the opposition is a two way street. If your internal stuff is fool proof it becomes irrelevant.

There’s only one side that’s concerned of an illegal election, and it only surfaced since the previous election because the nominee chose not to, and still chooses not to accept the result. All other elections have been accepted as the outcome. I can recall such a close election between Bush and Gore that the democrats accepted

 

[MrFrankWhite]

There’s only one side that’s concerned of an illegal election, and it only surfaced since the previous election because the nominee chose not to, and still chooses not to accept the result. All other elections have been accepted as the outcome. I can recall such a close election between Bush and Gore that the democrats accepted

There has been allegations of election interference since 2000. And they didnt accept it, they challenged it in the Supreme Court. Then lets not forget 2008, 2012, and 2016

 

[Bay39er]

There has been allegations of election interference since 2000. And they didnt accept it, they challenged it in the Supreme Court. Then lets not forget 2008, 2012, and 2016

Enlighten us please

2000 was nothing to do with election interference - it was all to do with how to count votes in Florida and once the SC (Conservative majority) ruled Gore immediately accepted the result

2008, 2012, 2016 - what were the allegations there

 

[MrFrankWhite]

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/19/2004-kerry-election-fraud-2020-448604

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Exclusive: Russian Hackers Attacked 2008 Obama Campaign

The Kremlin continues to target former Obama officials with an intelligence-gathering effort, according to a new report.

www.newsweek.com

 

[MrFrankWhite]

The other time Vladimir Putin swung an election

Fear of Russian manipulation plays a role in the upcoming American elections, just as it did in Georgia in 2012.

www.politico.eu

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Here's What We Know So Far About Russia's 2016 Meddling

It included hacking, spreading propaganda on social media and even staging rallies.

time.com

 

[Bay39er]

There has been allegations of election interference since 2000. And they didnt accept it, they challenged it in the Supreme Court. Then lets not forget 2008, 2012, and 2016

Your inference is that "they" (the Democrats) did not accept it

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Your inference is that "they" (the Democrats) did not accept it

What Happened to the Democrats Who Never Accepted Bush’s Election​

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/19/2004-kerry-election-fraud-2020-448604

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[Bay39er]

What Happened to the Democrats Who Never Accepted Bush’s Election​

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/19/2004-kerry-election-fraud-2020-448604

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Where in your early post did you mention 2004

The suggestion that the 2004 election was rigged was as a result of reseach by an academic

STEVEN F. FREEMAN has a PhD in Organization Studies from MIT’s Sloan School of Management and is the author of Was the 2004 Presidential Election Stolen?: Exit Polls, Election Fraud, and the Official Count. He is a visiting scholar at the University of Pennsylvania’s Center for Organizational Dynamics, where he teaches research methods and survey design. Freeman has received four national awards for best research paper of the year—on four different topics in three different fields.

As for the Democratic Party

For most of the world, the uncertainty didn’t last. Kerry conceded the next day, making a cordial call to Bush, after concluding that a recount in Ohio wouldn’t change the outcome of the race.

 

[Noitall]

There has been allegations of election interference since 2000. And they didnt accept it, they challenged it in the Supreme Court. Then lets not forget 2008, 2012, and 2016

Have you ever heard any presidential nominee openly reject their election loss to the point of claiming a rigged election?

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Have you ever heard any presidential nominee openly reject their election loss to the point of claiming a rigged election?

Yes. Trump.
Next.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Where in your early post did you mention 2004

The suggestion that the 2004 election was rigged was as a result of reseach by an academic

STEVEN F. FREEMAN has a PhD in Organization Studies from MIT’s Sloan School of Management and is the author of Was the 2004 Presidential Election Stolen?: Exit Polls, Election Fraud, and the Official Count. He is a visiting scholar at the University of Pennsylvania’s Center for Organizational Dynamics, where he teaches research methods and survey design. Freeman has received four national awards for best research paper of the year—on four different topics in three different fields.

As for the Democratic Party

For most of the world, the uncertainty didn’t last. Kerry conceded the next day, making a cordial call to Bush, after concluding that a recount in Ohio wouldn’t change the outcome of the race.

Eh it got added to the list.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

You guys are mistaken if you think Im a Trump supporter or even think the election was "stolen". Im just point out the gaping holes and illogical arguments going on here.

 

[Bay39er]

You guys are mistaken if you think Im a Trump supporter or even think the election was "stolen". Im just point out the gaping holes and illogical arguments going on here.

In your opinion!

Nevertheless we thank you for appointing yourself as the 'forum judge & jury'