Politics 🤡 Donald Trump

[wizard of Tauranga]

He wasn't the leader. He lost the election and refused to step down. If its an act of war, why didn't the Venezuelan Army fire a shot?

It was an act of war meddling in the affairs of a sovereign state.

Elected or not. He was the leader.

Whats to stop him capturing the leader of Denmark next and deciding to run Greenland?

If you decide your the international law, I see no philosophical difference to Isis trying to assassinate Trump.

End of the day, international law and sovereignty must be respected or all hell will break loose.

 

[Evil_Mush]

This is my favourite piece of political commentary of the situation I've seen so far.

Gotta love a national sports team sprinkling some self deprecation in with its geopolitical discourse

 

[MrFrankWhite]

It was an act of war meddling in the affairs of a sovereign state.

Oh so meddling is an act of war? Every country is guilty then even NZ

Elected or not. He was the leader.

Lul whut? Narco dictators ignoring democratic elections arent leaders.

Whats to stop him capturing the leader of Denmark next and deciding to run Greenland?

Probably the armies of Europe.

If you decide your the international law, I see no philosophical difference to Isis trying to assassinate Trump.

End of the day, international law and sovereignty must be respected or all hell will break loose.

How do you enforce international law Wiz? Through force. With Maduro indicted, Trump was technically doing just that.

 

[Cces]

 

[Cces]

I read that Russia apparently removed the families of their diplomats in Venezuela 2 weeks ago.
Maybe just a Xmas coincidence

 

[MrFrankWhite]

A lot of people discovering that power is in fact, still power.

Also Rubio spells it out.


View: https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/2007830000435622170?s=46&t=N6rrXot3pBpvv2hdvhmStw

 

[Brightman]

This isn’t an invasion and there’s no ground war. It’s basically a law enforcement move.

Yes that's exactly how Trump has framed it.

Still illegal and immoral..

 

[MaybeTop8]

Please lay out the military guidelines for what constitutes Offensive Operations vs Stability Operations (OFFOPS V STABOPS) and how this is actually an offensive operation.

Just use your extensive knowledge and personal experience.

Whose laws frank? Looks like international law, Venezuelan law, us laws all broken.

Unless you somehow believe trump. Seems to fit with the Russian narrative you are in love with.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Oh so meddling is an act of war? Every country is guilty then even NZ

Lul whut? Narco dictators ignoring democratic elections arent leaders.

Probably the armies of Europe.

How do you enforce international law Wiz? Through force. With Maduro indicted, Trump was technically doing just that.

 

[MaybeTop8]

And now Greenland. Fuck trump, right frank?

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[wizard of Tauranga]

Oh so meddling is an act of war? Every country is guilty then even NZ

Lul whut? Narco dictators ignoring democratic elections arent leaders.

Probably the armies of Europe.

How do you enforce international law Wiz? Through force. With Maduro indicted, Trump was technically doing just that.

Physical force is a defensive move.

Chimp behaviour isn’t a great blueprint for civilisation.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

And now Greenland. Fuck trump, right frank?

Stuff

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If we say nothing about Venezuela

Will we say anything when he takes Panama to ensure the free flow of goods;

Greenland to ensure national defence;

Canada to liberate the lefties;

Then looks at the South Pacific to contain China?

Lines in the sand have been crossed.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Everyone said Venezuela is about oil but have you seen the woman from there?

Trump wants them for his Miss America contest!

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Physical force is a defensive move.

Chimp behaviour isn’t a great blueprint for civilisation.

How do you enforce laws Wiz?

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Will we say anything when he takes Panama to ensure the free flow of goods;

Good

Greenland to ensure national defence;

Good

Canada to liberate the lefties;

Good

Then looks at the South Pacific to contain China?

Good

You seem to love the west Wiz, but you lack the intestinal fortitude to ensure its survival. Just say thank you and go about your way.

You forget representative democracy was forged through violence.

 

[Cces]

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You seem to love the west Wiz, but you lack the intestinal fortitude to ensure its survival. Just say thank you and go about your way.

You forget representative democracy was forged through violence.

Where's your line? Forced pregnancies to ensure the Great Replacement doesn't eventuate?

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Where's your line? Forced pregnancies to ensure the Great Replacement doesn't eventuate?

It’s was hyperbolic. If you can’t tell the difference between snatching a narco dictator and a ground invasion of Canada, then you don’t deserve a serious answer.

 

[MaybeTop8]

If we say nothing about Venezuela

Will we say anything when he takes Panama to ensure the free flow of goods;

Greenland to ensure national defence;

Canada to liberate the lefties;

Then looks at the South Pacific to contain China?

Lines in the sand have been crossed.

Holy shit, are you me? See you at the Greens meet up!

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Plus the US already invaded Panama in ‘89. More lesson learning

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Who decides the laws?

Those with the power. Now answer the question, how do you enforce laws?