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MrFrankWhite said:
West LA and East LA only places you'll find bike riders. Veryyyyy different kinds though . 😂

Seriously from SD, Cali right across to Tennessee may as well be a different country to LA/NY. (although upper east coast is one part i havent visited; Florida -Chitown-NY next trip)
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Yeah the difference even state to state can be pretty stark.

Only place I was ever threatened was a Target carpark in the mid west for talking funny...
 

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juju said:
For somebody that post so snide all the time you really are a cry baby of the highest order.

I didn't say people couldn't have an opinion, I said if they haven't been to those cities recently I'm dubious.

It's is a really weird phenomenon for people from down under to be so invested in other countries immigration settings while seemingly ignoring the unsavoury elements of it what's also happening with ICE or the unsavoury element of anti immigration rallies in Europe.
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LOL what ever mate.

Do you notice that all the things you claim on myself and other people, like your snide comments, is also reflective of yourself as well? You probably don't do you.

Unsurprisingly you revert to your standard type. Mixing it up a bit with cry baby though this time.

Having a discussion around the implications of mass immigration on a country isn't as big of a drama as you seem to want to turn it in to. But that's what happens a lot of the time with you.
 
MrFrankWhite said:
Cool, happy to check the numbers you produce to support your claim.

It actually quite obviously is enough to excuse it, as this is the most cliche debate of all time. People blaming foreigners for national ills isn’t exactly a new phenomena.

If you want to avoid the rise of nationalism, then you have to promote it yourself, so you can control it.

www.bbc.com

How Denmark's left (not the far right) got tough on immigration

Denmark has come under international attention for its tough approach. And its Social Democrat prime minister is leading the charge
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
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"Danish citizens with a migrant background have also been made to feel like outsiders, she notes.
She cites the Social Democrats' "parallel societies" law, which allows the state to sell off or demolish apartment blocks in troubled areas where at least half of residents have a "non-Western" background.
The Social Democrats say the law is aimed at improving integration but Prof Pace insists it is alienating. The children of immigrants are told they aren't Danish or a "pure Dane," she argues.
In February this year, a senior advisor to the EU's top court described the non-Western provision of the Danish law as discriminatory on the basis of ethnic origin."

Interesting article. Tiered societies based on ethnicity sounds an inherently flawed policy creating another problem. Pretty much what TPM is accused of here.
 
wizard of Tauranga said:
I’ve a family member who is non verbal and on the spectrum and anything anyone can do to research, go for it! Somethings making cases rise.
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In previous generations your family member would probably have have been branded mute and institutionalised, with all the other mentally ill and IHC, out of sight out of mind. Could mainstreaming and integration account for a lot of the apparent increase in autistic spectrum and neuro-divergancy that's always been there? Global population's doubled, more diagnostic tools etc.
 
Worried2Death said:
"Danish citizens with a migrant background have also been made to feel like outsiders, she notes.
She cites the Social Democrats' "parallel societies" law, which allows the state to sell off or demolish apartment blocks in troubled areas where at least half of residents have a "non-Western" background.
The Social Democrats say the law is aimed at improving integration but Prof Pace insists it is alienating. The children of immigrants are told they aren't Danish or a "pure Dane," she argues.
In February this year, a senior advisor to the EU's top court described the non-Western provision of the Danish law as discriminatory on the basis of ethnic origin."

Interesting article. Tiered societies based on ethnicity sounds an inherently flawed policy creating another problem. Pretty much what TPM is accused of here.
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Far better than what Sweden is facing though. I’d take a few hurt feelings over open street warfare…
 
Worried2Death said:
In previous generations your family member would probably have have been branded mute and institutionalised, with all the other mentally ill and IHC, out of sight out of mind. Could mainstreaming and integration account for a lot of the apparent increase in autistic spectrum and neuro-divergancy that's always been there? Global population's doubled, more diagnostic tools etc.
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That's far too sensible. You don't belong on the internet.
 
MrFrankWhite said:
Far better than what Sweden is facing though. I’d take a few hurt feelings over open street warfare
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Sure, but the Danish could be creating another marginalised generation that comes back to bite them in 20 years. Interesting contrasting case studies in Spain and Denmark anyway, the Spanish appear desperate for immigrants because they're not replacing themselves, like much of Europe.
 
Worried2Death said:
Sure, but the Danish could be creating another marginalised generation that comes back to bite them in 20 years. Interesting contrasting case studies in Spain and Denmark anyway, the Spanish appear desperate for immigrants because they're not replacing themselves, like much of Europe.
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Yes.

Like most things the reason incidence is higher is because diagnosis is better and screening used more widely.

Couple that with a wider acceptance of ASD and the culture shift where it is seen as somewhat cool in some aspects (the trope of the computer genius - hacking culture - silicone valley - tech entrepreneurs etc).

The socially awkward are a sub culture unto themselves now, geeks are cool and so on.

Aside from an apparent rise in incidence, the more humans there are, the more of everything will pop up in stats.

I was thinking about this paracetomol issue and the Havard study, I would be interested to know if they looked into the symptoms that the drug is prescribed for (pain and fever) and compared the incidence of ASD among untreated mothers that suffered those symptoms.

It could be that the conditions that the medicine is prescribed for is the link, it makes sense to me that a developing baby would be sensitive to the mothers distress or the biological state of developing in a mother that is firing neurons related to the pain pathways or the fever response. It may prove in fact that the disruption in neural pathways of the mother are causative rather than the treatment.
 
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sup42 said:
Yes.

Like most things the reason incidence is higher is because diagnosis is better and screening used more widely.

Couple that with a wider acceptance of ASD and the culture shift where it is seen as somewhat cool in some aspects (the trope of the computer genius - hacking culture - silicone valley - tech entrepreneurs etc).

The socially awkward are a sub culture unto themselves now, geeks are cool and so on.

Aside from an apparent rise in incidence, the more humans there are, the more of everything will pop up in stats.

I was thinking about this paracetomol issue and the Havard study, I would be interested to know if they looked into the symptoms that the drug is prescribed for (pain and fever) and compared the incidence of ASD among untreated mothers that suffered those symptoms.

It could be that the conditions that the medicine is prescribed for is the link, it makes sense to me that a developing baby would be sensitive to the mothers distress or the biological state of developing in a mother that is firing neurons related to the pain pathways or the fever response. It may prove in fact that the disruption in neural pathways of the mother are causative rather than the treatment.

Sorry I went off in my own little world I probably need to get into pornhub or Monster Trucks or pro Wrestling you feel me? (so long as I don't do all three in one! that would be a bit well can't say it out loud).
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Could it be a natural genetic phenomena that's beneficial for species adaption, necessary even. All the great geniuses are autists as you said Sup, it's the normies holding us back.
 
wizard of Tauranga said:
We’re descended from the genocidal population that took over…

The propensity for war makes sense now! All the peaceful ones were wiped out.
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Usually these genocides leave some DNA traces that are absorbed into the new population though.
I went to Cornwall once for a family reunion of my Cornish tribe on my dad's side, they struck me as a different ethnic group to the other Brits. I wondered if they were the original Britons, they spoke a bizarre guttural language and they all looked vaguely neanderthal, but they claimed to be Celts.
 
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Worried2Death said:
Usually these genocides leave some DNA traces that are absorbed into the new population though.
I went to Cornwall once for a family reunion of my Cornish tribe on my dad's side, they struck me as a different ethnic group to the other Brits. I wondered if they were the original Britons, they spoke a bizarre guttural language and they all looked vaguely neanderthal.
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Maybe the original woman were to ugly so they only pillaged?
 
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