Politics 🤡 Donald Trump

[watcher]

Color TV Blues by the great Don McLean just about sums up my feelings about all this shit.


The kids that fought the war are livin' outta state
And the CIA is runnin' things of late
When we elect a man, we put him on the spot
'cause if he don't play ball, he might get shot
The national security keeps it from the voters
'cause what's good for America isn't good for General Motors

We went and found ourselves some mighty strange lovers
The kind that like to blow from underneath the covers

Well millions can avoid with Dr Sigmund Freud
Those realities of life that tend to make me paranoid
Lookin' for the answer just gives me indigestion
I spent so much time, just dealin' with the question
We'd rather talk of dollars and forget about events
When what we have to decide is; Does it all make sense?

Well everybody's happy, I saw it on the news
But me, I' got a case of color TV blues

You know, just 'cause you're paranoid
Doesn't mean they're not trying t' get ya'

 

[MaybeTop8]

I do personally rate George Monbiot as a journalist

Conspiracist Thinking Is the Result of 40 Years of Social Atomization

Amid a disorienting explosion of crises and social shifts, there are worrying signs that some parts of the Left are becoming more susceptible to conspiracist ways of thinking. It’s a symptom of social atomization in the neoliberal era — but we don’t have to accept it as inevitable.

jacobin.com

It’s shocking to see so many leftwingers lured to the far right by conspiracy theories | George Monbiot

It’s not just anti-vaxxers. The themes of resisting power and regaining control of our lives have been cynically repurposed, says Guardian columnist George Monbiot

www.theguardian.com

 

[MaybeTop8]

Trump knows all this. He promotes it. You see the same in parties here, most notably the Act party and Nz First

 

[miket12]

To me the issue is both sides think of it as toyal good v bad ehatever side you are on.

An example, the Democrats, led by Hilary Clinton claimed Russian influence in the 2016 election, most of what they claimed was shown to be false. Republican claims in 2000 were just as bad.

Trump and Biden to me seem equally corrupt. Just one did it within the system. The other outside.

The sad thing is, for what is supposed to be the world's greatest country, the best that they can find to lead them is one who is not far from a retirement home and the other who is not far from jail. You'd think they could do much better.

Hell, I'd rather have Clark, Key, Ardern or Luxon over either of them any day!!!

 

[MaybeTop8]

The sad thing is, for what is supposed to be the world's greatest country, the best that they can find to lead them is one who is not far from a retirement home and the other who is not far from jail. You'd think they could do much better.

Hell, I'd rather have Clark, Key, Ardern or Luxon over either of them any day!!!

Webster

 

[miket12]

The US has an amazingly weird system where Trump could be President while in jail with a criminal conviction.... but he wouldn't be allowed to vote for himself because his home is in Florida.

 

[Viking]

To me the issue is both sides think of it as toyal good v bad ehatever side you are on.

An example, the Democrats, led by Hilary Clinton claimed Russian influence in the 2016 election, most of what they claimed was shown to be false. Republican claims in 2000 were just as bad.

Trump and Biden to me seem equally corrupt. Just one did it within the system. The other outside.

The interference was real. Prigozhin boasted about it in 2022:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/russias-prigozhin-admits-interfering-us-elections-2022-11-07/#:~:text=LONDON%2C%20Nov%207%20(Reuters),efforts%20to%20influence%20American%20politics.

The alleged collusion between the Trump Republicans and Russia was not proven and I seriously doubt there was any. Trump's people were willfully ignorant.

 

[Evil_Mush]

Such a niggly thing to get charged over (paying a pornstar off and the accounting behind it) considering all the crap presidents and politicians and their administrations have done for years that result in mass death and economic harm around the world

Politics is such a dumb part of humanity.

 

[Evil_Mush]

The day AI and quantum computing combine to just release all the dirty secrets of the powerful so all us plebs finally see the illicit & degrading things the respectful leadership gets up to is going to be such a darkly comic day

 

[tajhay]

The US has an amazingly weird system where Trump could be President while in jail with a criminal conviction.... but he wouldn't be allowed to vote for himself because his home is in Florida.

well this is also a country that has elections on Tuesdays due to very outdated ways on how they did things back in the day....

Sunday - day of worship and rest (christianity). Wednesday is the day where the farmers sold their products at the market. Travel back in those days took a day...so couldnt be monday...so they decided on Tuesday. And they still do it to this very date in 2024. Having it on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November also takes out All Saints day and some merchants would settle their books for the prior month on that day.

Backward society.

 

[Viking]

well this is also a country that has elections on Tuesdays due to very outdated ways on how they did things back in the day....

Sunday - day of worship and rest (christianity). Wednesday is the day where the farmers sold their products at the market. Travel back in those days took a day...so couldnt be monday...so they decided on Tuesday. And they still do it to this very date in 2024. Having it on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November also takes out All Saints day and some merchants would settle their books for the prior month on that day.

Backward society.

In somes states, your pay can be docked for taking time off work to vote. I think it's about 9 states in total.

A higher percentage of employed people vote Democrat so mail in votes are the difference between winning and losing.

If I was forfeiting a few hundred bucks to vote, I probably wouldn't.

 

[MaybeTop8]

The interference was real. Prigozhin boasted about it in 2022:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/russias-prigozhin-admits-interfering-us-elections-2022-11-07/#:~:text=LONDON%2C%20Nov%207%20(Reuters),efforts%20to%20influence%20American%20politics.

The alleged collusion between the Trump Republicans and Russia was not proven and I seriously doubt there was any. Trump's people were willfully ignorant.

Mutually beneficial

 

[MaybeTop8]

In somes states, your pay can be docked for taking time off work to vote. I think it's about 9 states in total.

A higher percentage of employed people vote Democrat so mail in votes are the difference between winning and losing.

If I was forfeiting a few hundred bucks to vote, I probably wouldn't.

The dismantling of democracy to make it harder for the working class to vote in the states is well documented. The Republicans have been gerrymandering for decades now - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...edistricting-map-republicans-democrats-visual

 

[sup42]

well this is also a country that has elections on Tuesdays due to very outdated ways on how they did things back in the day....

Sunday - day of worship and rest (christianity). Wednesday is the day where the farmers sold their products at the market. Travel back in those days took a day...so couldnt be monday...so they decided on Tuesday. And they still do it to this very date in 2024. Having it on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November also takes out All Saints day and some merchants would settle their books for the prior month on that day.

Backward society.

A country that allows armed Krackers to sit outside polling stations with AR15's to keep away black folks is not a civilized society.

Imagine that shit when you go to vote in NZ and Australia it would be pure madness right?

 

[Shogun]

MAKE PRISON GREAT AGAIN

 

[watcher]

There is an American law that authorises their Government to seize and hold patents that are may be detrimental to the Government or economy. No justification or explanation required. About 6,000 of them apparently. Probably hidden with the JFK and UFO files.

 

[watcher]

View: https://youtu.be/wTjMqda19wk

 

[Tragic]

They’re the face of fascism

Doesn't really answer the question.

 

[tajhay]

Doesn't really answer the question.

I always find it amusing how far right wing supporters use terms like facism, socialism without being able to define it.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

I think Trumps an idiot, a criminal and shouldn’t be anywhere near office. But:

- I think this case was political - not as a massive conspiracy but people that don’t like him pushed it to happen.

- I don’t understand why this case is a big deal - he paid off this woman (legal) but it was coded ‘illegally’ coded as legal expenses? Is it a big deal??? Why? Sounds like slap on the wrist stuff…

Nail him on the big stuff as this small stuff just gives fuel to his supporters about a big political hitjob.