Politics 🤡 Donald Trump

[Worried2Death]

Of course it is. Pro black is alright isn’t it? Pro Jew is alright isn’t it?

I dunno but I suspect Duke might have a not very well hidden agenda against people with inferior genes like yours and mine

 

[MrFrankWhite]

I dunno but I suspect Duke might have a not very well hidden agenda against people with inferior genes like yours

And people can have their own opinions on race mixing, he’s hardly the only one. Lots of ethnic parents want the kids to marry the same.

I AM mixed race, so I had a default position, but race actually does matter. Ask any parent that’s had a kid with needing bone marrow transplant. I was race-pilled after that.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Any back to Trump.

What’s happening with that USAid money and NZ universities. Lots of accusations

 

[Worried2Death]

And people can have their own opinions on race mixing, he’s hardly the only one. Lots of ethnic parents want the kids to marry the same.

I AM mixed race, so I had a default position, but race actually does matter. Ask any parent that’s had a kid with needing bone marrow transplant. I was race-pilled after that.

KKK ideology advocates violence and ethnic cleansing though, did he mention that?

 

[MrFrankWhite]

KKK ideology advocates violence and ethnic cleansing though, did he mention that?

Wow that’s a first. No one has ever advocated for those two things before.

I’ve seen that from the radical fringe of TPM.

 

[Worried2Death]

Wow that’s a first. No one has ever advocated for those two things before.

I’ve seen that from the radical fringe of TPM.

No not a first, more like the default standard of our species. Shouldn't we be trying to move past that?

 

[Hardyman's Yugo]

Well this has taken a turn. Admiration for Putin and David Duke

I wish the NRL would hurry up and get the season started

 

[Worried2Death]

Well this has taken a turn. Admiration for Putin and David Duke

It's turned into the twilight of democracy thread, Bruce saw this coming.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Ok, all the ‘Trumps in it for Trump’; ‘Trumps making himself rich’; ‘by the rich, for the rich’ people.

How do we explain that Trump was poorer after his first presidency than before?

Facts and history before conspiracy theories:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/09/politics/forbes-400-donald-trump-wealth/index.html

Donald Trump's wealth takes tumble during presidency - BBC News

The former US president's fortune slipped to $2.3bn according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index.

www.bbc.com

 

[MaybeTop8]

Ok, all the ‘Trumps in it for Trump’; ‘Trumps making himself rich’; ‘by the rich, for the rich’ people.

How do we explain that Trump was poorer after his first presidency than before?

Facts and history before conspiracy theories:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/09/politics/forbes-400-donald-trump-wealth/index.html

Donald Trump's wealth takes tumble during presidency - BBC News

The former US president's fortune slipped to $2.3bn according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index.

www.bbc.com

Fact - they're not even hiding mate

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30J3whoe4_4

 

[juju]

It's turned into the twilight of democracy thread, Bruce saw this coming.

Poor @tajhay

He has somebody actively advocating for the leader of the KKK on the NZ Warriors Fan Forum he built.
I bet this wasn't on his bingo card for what this forum would be about.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Fact - they're not even hiding mate

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30J3whoe4_4

Watched the first 30 seconds.

Are you shocked the US is a Christian country and been patriotically that was as long as I’ve known it?

It’s not even a Trump thing - just look at the abortion debate. The US is one of the most deeply religious western countries and who are we to say they are wrong?

 

[Noitall]

Watched the first 30 seconds.

Are you shocked the US is a Christian country and been patriotically that was as long as I’ve known it?

It’s not even a Trump thing - just look at the abortion debate. The US is one of the most deeply religious western countries and who are we to say they are wrong?

Because there needs to be separation between state and church and not beliefs pushed upon people

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Because there needs to be separation between state and church and not beliefs pushed upon people

But dont people vote based in part on their religious beliefs? Especially the US politicians always reference god and lean on religion in their campaigning.

I would say that’s more just the moral religious fabric of the people coming through in their politics rather than any direct tie in to the church (ie the church active in politics).

Each country has a culture that is normalised and the US is based on their religious fundamentals. Even NZ has rules based on our western culture that other cultures would find weird (taboo subjects, public nudity, etc)

Philosophically, for debate, aren’t issues like LGBT, abortion, lowering speed limits, etc people pushing their beliefs in others? They are not black and white supported by data as both sides can build a case. Aren’t all politics really pushing beliefs?

 

[Noitall]

But dont people vote based in part on their religious beliefs? Especially the US politicians always reference god and lean on religion in their campaigning.

I would say that’s more just the moral religious fabric of the people coming through in their politics rather than any direct tie in to the church (ie the church active in politics).

Each country has a culture that is normalised and the US is based on their religious fundamentals. Even NZ has rules based on our western culture that other cultures would find weird (taboo subjects, public nudity, etc)

Philosophically, for debate, aren’t issues like LGBT, abortion, lowering speed limits, etc people pushing their beliefs in others? They are not black and white supported by data as both sides can build a case. Aren’t all politics really pushing beliefs?

No I don’t think so. Though America tends to be overall a fairly religious place, it’s only really through the bible belt that there’s a fanatical view around it and it takes precedence over their entire lives. Think that’s how trump likes to demonise California for their lack of religious values to conduct their lives under. Would say the Pacific islands, take your pick of which one would be among the most religious in terms if Christianity with Sunday coming to a complete standstill

 

[Inruin]

Because there needs to be separation between state and church and not beliefs pushed upon people

If the majority of people are christian or the country has been largely founded on that, then shouldn't the state reflect that? And if the majority are Christian why does a country have to fundamentally change what they are about. Similarly a predominantly muslim country is going to be lead by those values and culture. Is it a bit like buying a house next to Eden Park then complaining about the noise?

 

[mrblonde]

Disagree mate. We're drowning in disinformation and concerted efforts in the last 15 years to break down community and peaceful cooperation. This is deliberate and it's worked.

People like us? That sounds like nationalist, populist whatever.

That way leads to war and destruction. This isn't fate. This is deliberate fascism.

As far as I'm concerned the real war is this:
What is Disinformation? What is Misinformation?
We can yell these each other "You're MISINFORMED!", "You're DISINFORMED!" and can tie those words to the media/social media that we choose to watch/believe in.
The core of language is definition and it's very easy to change a word's definition to make it mean what you want it to mean.
I know people who genuinely believe that schools are putting out catty litters to cater for Furries on the basis that they identify as being cats. Nope. They're just roleplaying. Yes, they're most likely somewhere on the LGBT spectrum/side, but they are not claiming to be cats. This, however, upsets these people badly.

I agree, this is deliberate, whether you call it facism or not. People are voting for this. Making a deliberate decision about this.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

As far as I'm concerned the real war is this:
What is Disinformation? What is Misinformation?
We can yell these each other "You're MISINFORMED!", "You're DISINFORMED!" and can tie those words to the media/social media that we choose to watch/believe in.
The core of language is definition and it's very easy to change a word's definition to make it mean what you want it to mean.
I know people who genuinely believe that schools are putting out catty litters to cater for Furries on the basis that they identify as being cats. Nope. They're just roleplaying. Yes, they're most likely somewhere on the LGBT spectrum/side, but they are not claiming to be cats. This, however, upsets these people badly.

I agree, this is deliberate, whether you call it facism or not. People are voting for this. Making a deliberate decision about this.

timing

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/school-life/miss-purr-queensland-teacher-allegedly-behaving-like-a-cat-in-class/news-story/ff1bcd7cd5b14cccf0ed4684ab578eab

 

[Noitall]

If the majority of people are christian or the country has been largely founded on that, then shouldn't the state reflect that? And if the majority are Christian why does a country have to fundamentally change what they are about. Similarly a predominantly muslim country is going to be lead by those values and culture. Is it a bit like buying a house next to Eden Park then complaining about the noise?

I’m not saying they need to change what they are about, but I don’t think the state needs to enforce such views. America was founded on slavery too, but times change and I don’t see why there’s a need to go back to times where views are forced. If you want to willingly participate, no problem but it almost feels like the push for people to bring Christianity into their lives is trying to paint a picture that the world was a much better place when many were devout but there were also many hypocrites who thought turning up to church on Sunday forgave them of all the shit things they did that week. I remember in the 80’s when Christian’s were up in arms about heavy metal being the devils music such extremes they go to that the industry embraced it. Then you get the likes of Bali making it illegal to have sex out of wedlock, so just how far does their reach encroach on our lives?

 

[MrFrankWhite]

America was founded on slavery too,

Thats complete nonsense that ignores the history of every nationality involved.