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Seems like this will be unpopular on top of national’s unpopularity. Credit for being transparent but I don’t think it’s going to be a vote winner and completely against Winston’s wishes I would imagine
Winnie has an interesting choice after the election if he's in the "Kingmaker role" again. Hipkins said on Kerrie Woodham's show that he's considering means testing NZ Super while Luxon is talking about raising the age.

Personally, I think Labour's approach will win more votes as theirs would only affect those with enough to get over whatever threshold they set while National's approach would affect everyone if the age of entitlement is increased. In other words, greed will win because, for most people, means testing won't affect them.... only the rich bustards.

Of course, Labour's way will go against the social contract currently in place..... people are happy to pay tax now to go to superannuants because, when they're entitled to it, those younger than them will pay for their super.
 
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Winnie has an interesting choice after the election if he's in the "Kingmaker role" again. Hipkins said on Kerrie Woodham's show that he's considering means testing NZ Super while Luxon is talking about raising the age.

Personally, I think Labour's approach will win more votes as theirs would only affect those with enough to get over whatever threshold they set while National's approach would affect everyone if the age of entitlement is increased. In other words, greed will win because, for most people, means testing won't affect them.... only the rich bustards.

Of course, Labour's way will go against the social contract currently in place..... people are happy to pay tax now to go to superannuants because, when they're entitled to it, those younger than them will pay for their super.
You know as well as anyone that Winston will negotiate what’s best for Winston, but to go too far against his greypower base would be suicide. Many worldwide factors playing out too and the coalition have tied themselves to America whereas labour are actually still able to call out what most of us are thinking is absolutely unhinged
 
He's officially going on mine now too. What an absolute loon. Needs some serious help.
This is hilarious. You've worked yourself into an imaginative froth over Wiz's sarcastic post.

I can only guess your world is so insular and narrow that people who challenge your norms are somehow a threat.

Apologies for being in your head so much, enjoy the weekend.
 
well, those are both fair points, my preference would actually be user pays super. So no state funded super, and employer-matched KiwiSaver at whatever level is necessary to provide for the retirement people want to enjoy

No KiwiSaver withdrawals until you wish to retire (ie no withdrawals to buy a house etc)

But that’s just me. User pays.

Otherwise, super is just a state-administered Ponzi scheme
That sounds like Oz, where I came to the realisation that their super is essentially a tax you can’t get out of but everyone wins and it’s made the country a mile richer than us.

Tho those that work hardest/smartest get the greatest reward in retirement. And if you’ve done f all. You get the minimum, otherwise it’s user pays.

My old man who worked in nz for 30 years, can’t collect any nz pension as it would be counted towards oz pension. It’s the way it should be.

Nz system is completely unsustainable. I’ll back Labour as at least the young people of this country can have some hope. Raising the age to 67 matches Oz, but just benefits the wealthy. Not those who can’t actually afford to retire.

Why are kiwis so dumb sometimes?
 
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