Yeah old Trump has certainly thrown a cat amongst the pigeons economically. Unfortunately that economic recovery that was underway is reversing at least for the time being. But it will still be centre right or left running the country, most interesting thing will be whether Winston can negotiate his way into the PM role.
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That’s certainly what Winston will be angling for and his willingness for American politics currently makes me hopeful he doesn’t achieve it
Add the fact that his deputy is the shonkiest politician ever Shane Jones
Winston's too far cooker imo. He's aligned fully with Trump, hopefully he's too toxic to consider now
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He seems to be who national are leaking voters to
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Dud cyclone - all the warnings and everything shut up and closed down for nothing. State of emergencies declared before the storm just in case…
Last nights flash flooding, no warning, worse damage, significant flooding housing and infrastructure more damaged -an actual state of emergencies due to emergencies!
…and this is why we just need to be resilient and not rely on nanny state protecting us. Nature doesn’t play by a nice neat set of rules.
Last nights flash flooding, no warning, worse damage, significant flooding housing and infrastructure more damaged -an actual state of emergencies due to emergencies!
…and this is why we just need to be resilient and not rely on nanny state protecting us. Nature doesn’t play by a nice neat set of rules.
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What’s my right wing ideology? It’s simply personal responsibility and the sum of many individuals making decisions being better than the state ever can.
I’ve had a bit to do with hospitals lately and they send you home as early as possible because your outcomes are better at home than staying longer. Fact.
So even the state run hospital system realised individuals making independent decisions has better outcomes than the state trying to do it for them.
This post and your last one are textbook.
The regressive, destructive establishment past - Of the rich, by the rich for the rich
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A progressive forward thinking government that will look after it's citizens above the greed of the powerful
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A progressive forward thinking government that will look after it's citizens above the greed of the powerful
This hard right racist government continuing to betray New Zealanders
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I think Luxon will be rolled soon and Bishop gave me the impression this morning on q and a that he’ll be the one. Tame even joked that he sounded like he wanted to be leader as much as obviously he didn’t want to sound as though he was interested of course. I think it’ll be Bishop against McAnulty potentially by the coming election
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That slipped by quietly as much as it will be supported by some
Stanford would be a better candidate, she's done good things in Education.Stuff
I think Luxon will be rolled soon and Bishop gave me the impression this morning on q and a that he’ll be the one. Tame even joked that he sounded like he wanted to be leader as much as obviously he didn’t want to sound as though he was interested of course. I think it’ll be Bishop against McAnulty potentially by the coming election
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100% agree but possibly to junior within National.
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She has the Jacinda image and likability that Luxon struggles with.
Jacinda has shown it’s about communication and selling a vision rather than policy, so Bishop would be more of the same as Luxon.
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Not sure if it’s that it’s viewed of her not being competent but her sitting at 1% with the likes of Willis and how many seem to view Willis seems like Stanford wouldn’t really be on their radar? Bishop only with 1% more at 2% though of preferred pm. Underwhelming figures for all with Hipkins preferred pm at 19%, Luxon at 16% and Winston at 12%
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We may disagree on politics but you're always a good person Mike. Hope you're looking after yourself mate..
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She has but unfortunately is seen in the party (along with Bishop, Willis and Luxon) as being Progressive/Liberal rather than Conservative.
Mark Mitchell could be a smokey if it does happen
How is that a problem if you say Bishop, Willis and Luxon (literally their current leader) are as well?
It's a problem if your electorate is conservative and the proposed leader isn't seen to be.
Luxon only got the job due to the influence of Key and despite his thinking is not a true conservative. The other three are deemed liberals within the party, on the left side of right if that makes sense.
The other issue is that caucus doesn't appear to be settled on rolling Luxon and are hoping he will walk. Don't think he's the type to do that so this could be very messy and whoever puts their hand up is going to be tainted. National voters have long memories and the Bridges, Muller, Collins debacle is still fresh.
National has lost it's identity as a conservative party with Act and Winston Inc taking over that role. IMO, the major parties will continue to bleed voters to the minors as they lose the identity they once had. That idealism and point of difference is now being built by the minors and I expect the minors leaders to increase their share of preferred PM.
