While I would agree at this point they’ll go back in, a week in politics is a lifetime let alone 10 months. Things could be better, things could be worse such is the volatility of the world currently. If I was placing a bet, it would be on them to go back in
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Saw this morning & only briefly had time to digest. I am getting a totally new slant on the issue now. Especially with Hipkins saying he believes Mitchels version. .
Yeah & always potential for scandals etc to derail things. However at this point I think there just hasn’t been enough time for the voting public to forget how diabolical things were under Jacinda & Robertson.
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Labour leader Chris Hipkins 'absolutely certain' he wasn't told about McSkimming
The Labour leader and former police minister says he had no conversation on the matter with former police commissioner Andrew Coster in 2022.
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If you have a look at what's been served up by the alternatives these last couple of years:
- Labour - largely unnoticeable
- Greens - irrelevance and party identity crisis
- TPM - nepotism and infighting
Hipkins also said when questioned about whether he believed that Mitchell was telling the truth about his not having the same conversation he said yes. He doesn't believe Mitchell was informed either
Labour leader Chris Hipkins 'absolutely certain' he wasn't told about McSkimming
The Labour leader and former police minister says he had no conversation on the matter with former police commissioner Andrew Coster in 2022.
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Yes & I think the key to a third term would be shifting Luxon on to greener pastures, in fact any pasture that isn’t PM would do.
Funny though because reading this thread you’d be mistaken for believing that NZ is currently in political turmoil. Thankfully it’s mostly just fringe vocal minority, deeply offended at nothing, dribble.
Plenty of dribble on offer here.
We will pass. Thanks for acknowledging and the offer though.
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Plenty of dribble up the court, followed by a buzzer-beating slam dunk
and the crowd of 5 million goes wild
and the crowd of 5 million goes wild
At the same time, very little between either with national on 36 and labour on 35, it’s the coalition partners giving the majority. Still a very close election ahead I believe and I don’t think labour will be disheartened at all with a failed leadership coup and Luxon holding the top job with his weak leadership
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Yes, I’m sure Labour benefiting from the loss of credibility & subsequent popularity of the hard left minority parties. Surprising it took so long really.
Re the coup, I’m not sure how much of that is just the NZ media trying to do what the NZ media does, make shit up. As I’ve said before, I’d love Luxon to be ousted, however based on a couple of things I’ve heard I doubt there’s been any real appetite from anyone for a coup.
And the Tax Payers Union about to launch a smear campaign on the finance minister which is pretty unprecedented.
Certainly not turmoil - but definitely shaky.
Really not a huge amount between greens and act and both look to have learned to go to ground rather than negative headlines. I’d be as confident of national returning to government as I was in 2017 and think like that election that Winston will decide the next. Could see a minority leader get half a term at pm for the first time to sweeten the deal? Often a good indication of some sort of leadership challenge is the challenger often has some sort of demotion come their way, so I’ll be interested to see Luxon and Bishop’s interactions
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To be honest, I actually think that's a decent reason, for those on the left, to take a bit of solace in the current government
If the Taxpayers Union thinks she is too moderate, then centre / left voters shouldn't be too disheartened that she's there. Which *should* be a better outcome for those voters than if the TPU got its way
If the government sticks it out with Willis, we'll continue to get boring but moderate policy enacted, rather than a hard swing to the right. Which in my view would have more legs in it than a liberal alternative
One has to understand human nature
If Hipkins said that he disbelieved Mitchell then effectively he is saying that what Coster said was correct and therefore he is inadvertently inferring that he himself had been put in the picture.
She's appalling though
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Who would you replace her with? One of Seymour’s team?
According to Hooton it's not because Willis is too moderate, just that she's a worse finance minister then Grant
Admittedly there will be alot of infighting and ideology differences at play.
