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I'll interrupt this self congratulatory rightie propaganda wankfest to condemn anyone attacking anyone.

As you were.
Will be interesting to see if Swarbrick has any to ties to the 29 year old chap that’s done this to which she’s said she hasn’t because that’s pretty deplorable politics from Peters to to vilify her over another person’s actions and very much out of American politics playbook currently. It’s a very polarising topic currently but ironic for him to be criticising after some of his performative stunts over the years. Person should be prosecuted because that’s beyond protest, we’re heading into murky waters
 

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Will be interesting to see if Swarbrick has any to ties to the 29 year old chap that’s done this to which she’s said she hasn’t because that’s pretty deplorable politics from Peters to to vilify her over another person’s actions and very much out of American politics playbook currently. It’s a very polarising topic currently but ironic for him to be criticising after some of his performative stunts over the years. Person should be prosecuted because that’s beyond protest, we’re heading into murky waters
That's the right. That's who those fascists are. Literally right now.
 
That's the right. That's who those fascists are. Literally right now.
🤣 you think you can tar the whole political right for a persons actions when it suits but wash your hands when a radical lefty does anything!

Good time to reflect man! That sort of statement after a despicable attack on an MP isn’t a good look.

It’s this sort of hate speech that empowers the Peters attacker. Almost like you condone it…

Interesting you condone the violence but nothing about the underlying hate.
 
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🤣 you think you can tar the whole political right for a persons actions when it suits but wash your hands when a radical lefty does anything!

Good time to reflect man! That sort of statement after a despicable attack on an MP isn’t a good look.

It’s this sort of hate speech that empowers the Peters attacker. Almost like you condone it…

Interesting you condone the violence but nothing about the underlying hate.
🤣 here's a statement wiz. You're a liar and a troll. End of my comms with you on these political forums.
 
🤣 you think you can tar the whole political right for a persons actions when it suits but wash your hands when a radical lefty does anything!

Good time to reflect man! That sort of statement after a despicable attack on an MP isn’t a good look.

It’s this sort of hate speech that empowers the Peters attacker. Almost like you condone it…

Interesting you condone the violence but nothing about the underlying hate.
I’m not trying to play down the actions of this guy and as I’ve said, think he should be prosecuted but I don’t think it’s an attack on Peters in the sense of violence on him but more an act of wilful damage. There’s no account of him trying to enter the premises as yet and gives the impression of someone trying to big note in a protest and has gone too far, which is why I think a prosecution could be necessary to send a message. It wasn’t a good thing for his address to be leaked but I also think it shows the sense of frustration from those that support the Palestinian cause in doing so people are labelled with supporting hamas, which isn’t the case, it’s the innocents being slaughtered
 
I’m not trying to play down the actions of this guy and as I’ve said, think he should be prosecuted but I don’t think it’s an attack on Peters in the sense of violence on him but more an act of wilful damage. There’s no account of him trying to enter the premises as yet and gives the impression of someone trying to big note in a protest and has gone too far, which is why I think a prosecution could be necessary to send a message. It wasn’t a good thing for his address to be leaked but I also think it shows the sense of frustration from those that support the Palestinian cause in doing so people are labelled with supporting hamas, which isn’t the case, it’s the innocents being slaughtered
A group called Tāmaki for Palestine claimed responsibility for a series of paint attacks and vandalism on the offices of National and ACT party MPs in late 2023 and early 2024.

Green MP Ricardo Menendez providing a character reference for one of the vandals…

Those Palestinian supporters seem a nice bunch of people…

Protest the policies, parties, etc through the right channels but we should never protest the individual MP. They should never have been outside Peters house protesting in the first place.

I don’t support politics by intimidation.
 
A group called Tāmaki for Palestine claimed responsibility for a series of paint attacks and vandalism on the offices of National and ACT party MPs in late 2023 and early 2024.

Green MP Ricardo Menendez providing a character reference for one of the vandals…

Those Palestinian supporters seem a nice bunch of people…

Protest the policies, parties, etc through the right channels but we should never protest the individual MP. They should never have been outside Peters house protesting in the first place.

I don’t support politics by intimidation.
Think it’s always interesting to highlight the extremism on both sides, I’ve posted on the trump thread the place where right extremism tends to go and we witnessed it with the Mosque shooter over here, but left extremism tends to be vandalism in a lot of cases. In 2014 protestors gathered outside John key’s home and we’ve gone to more and more extreme places since with Ardern’s vehicle chased etc. I think with protest, it’s often about getting your cause heard and we’d often see gimmicks like being handcuffed to something or the like, and still do like those recent priests outside Willis’ office
 
Think it’s always interesting to highlight the extremism on both sides, I’ve posted on the trump thread the place where right extremism tends to go and we witnessed it with the Mosque shooter over here, but left extremism tends to be vandalism in a lot of cases. In 2014 protestors gathered outside John key’s home and we’ve gone to more and more extreme places since with Ardern’s vehicle chased etc. I think with protest, it’s often about getting your cause heard and we’d often see gimmicks like being handcuffed to something or the like, and still do like those recent priests outside Willis’ office
The analogy exists for being pushed into a corner, fighting back and then being labelled the aggressor, with the original acts of aggression totally being ignored. That's happening all over now, and the original aggressor? Obviously parties on the right and far right
 
The analogy exists for being pushed into a corner, fighting back and then being labelled the aggressor, with the original acts of aggression totally being ignored. That's happening all over now, and the original aggressor? Obviously parties on the right and far right
This seems to be the left and far left's go to. Find a way to turn themselves in to the victim.

In this Peters case, we are talking about a protester in NZ that has gone on to an MP's private property, his residence and caused damage to his home, while his partner was there. There is no way that anybody can paint the guy that has done this as the victim.

Like toddlers who don't get their way. Look at me, look at me. Why isn't anyone looking at me? If I yell and make as much noise as I can it will mean I'm right, right? See, I'm making the loudest noise. Anyone? I guess I'm going to have to break something now.....
 
This seems to be the left and far left's go to. Find a way to turn themselves in to the victim.

In this Peters case, we are talking about a protester in NZ that has gone on to an MP's private property, his residence and caused damage to his home, while his partner was there. There is no way that anybody can paint the guy that has done this as the victim.

Like toddlers who don't get their way. Look at me, look at me. Why isn't anyone looking at me? If I yell and make as much noise as I can it will mean I'm right, right? See, I'm making the loudest noise. Anyone? I guess I'm going to have to break something now.....
There were a number on here happy to jump on the lynchmob Peters and our resident fascist were only too happy to incite and inflame.

I don’t condone any kind of attack. But please spare us the pearl clutching
 
This seems to be the left and far left's go to. Find a way to turn themselves in to the victim.

In this Peters case, we are talking about a protester in NZ that has gone on to an MP's private property, his residence and caused damage to his home, while his partner was there. There is no way that anybody can paint the guy that has done this as the victim.

Like toddlers who don't get their way. Look at me, look at me. Why isn't anyone looking at me? If I yell and make as much noise as I can it will mean I'm right, right? See, I'm making the loudest noise. Anyone? I guess I'm going to have to break something now.....
I'm the real left and the far left are just Marxists! You wonder why Marxists want anything to do with Democracy!
 
Are you about 80 old then?
Fixed it for you :sneaky:

well, a few decades before the the meme rent-a-crowd that has gone from 1% to Climate Change to Black Lives Matter to Amazon Wildfires to Just Stop Oil to Amazon Fires to Free Palestine.

The serial protestors that send hope and prayers via selfies in flags and updated instagram backgrounds and adopt whatever movement is popular, driven by celebs and likes. A few decades before this crowd became a thing. In the mid 2000's I became awakened to what has been happening in Palestine, and started caring about it

So yeah, I do care. But a different sort of caring than the superficial "what's everyone protesting now" group. Where were they all before 2023? Where was the protest then, when Israel kept breaking international laws and displacing Palestinians in occupied territories? Those protesters were out latching onto some other bandwagon

Most of them gave a sh*t about Palestine

Would be good to hear you speak up about the genocide being carried out by Israel on the Palestinians.

Greta has huge integrity and bravery.

Easier to mock than speak up it seems
Yeah, I'm pretty happy mind mocking groups that do things for likes. I don't put Greta in this category but I don't mind having a laugh at public figures from time to time. You should try it. It makes life enjoyable sometimes

As a side note, have a read of Balcony Over Jerusalem. Good book
 
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