Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[wizard of Tauranga]

Your vested interests on display too wiz - your propaganda, your lies, you making shit up. As always.

I’ll help you out here as you seem to be have disengaged in logical and well reasoned conversation:

Eco Gas is a private company that runs Reporoa and takes the food scraps.

It should be publicly owned and then the gas emitted could offset the cost to councils and make it cashflow neutral or even positive. This is the ideal Green initiative that everyone can support.


But alas it was all started in 2000 under a Green/ Labour govt…

 

[Inruin]

You two should get a room.

Wiz is once again creating fiction. Any questions around the fiction he creates can't be answered by me.

Ah the left. This is who they are.

 

[Worried2Death]

Wiz, what vested interests do you have in food scraps?

Or is that easier than actually answering your questions and discussing it with you?

He's a shill for big scraps. It was National and Act who signed us up to the Paris agreement, this is the right, this is who they are.

 

[Inruin]

He's a shill for big scraps. It was National and Act who signed us up to the Paris agreement, this is the right, this is who they are.

Corrupt! Neoliberalism! Privatizing food scraps! And we wonder why waiting lists for food scrap bins is getting worse!

 

[Rick O’Shay]

He's a shill for big scraps. It was National and Act who signed us up to the Paris agreement, this is the right, this is who they are.

They did but it was Big Jim Shaw and The Queen of Spin who in 2022 upped the NDC and without any arm twisting raised the penalties for not hitting targets that we were never going to get to. Possible $30b bill by 2030. Lot of money.

This is the Neo Marxists, this is who they are

 

[Worried2Death]

Possible $30b bill by 2030. Lot of money.

Whaaaat, is there a break fee to get out of it?

 

[Rick O’Shay]

Whaaaat, is there a break fee to get out of it?

Yes, if we completely cover the country in Pines we might only have to pay the combined Parliamentary salary bill

The majority in there appear as thick as two short planks anyway so not a big deal

 

[MaybeTop8]

Meanwhile, back in facts land


View: https://bsky.app/profile/russelnorman.bsky.social/post/3ly7sip3suk2w

 

[Worried2Death]

Meanwhile, back in facts land


View: https://bsky.app/profile/russelnorman.bsky.social/post/3ly7sip3suk2w

Country's grinding to a halt because of this power price crisis, if there's not the political appetite for nuclear generators I don't see what the answer is, other than waiting for new tech like cold fusion or photons or something that's decades away, we'll be a 2nd world basket case by then.

 

[defensivebomb]

Meanwhile, back in facts land


View: https://bsky.app/profile/russelnorman.bsky.social/post/3ly7sip3suk2w

TBH, you are posting someone’s opinion on a subject matter. Norman isn’t backing up his opinion with facts, it’s just his point of view

 

[MaybeTop8]

TBH, you are posting someone’s opinion on a subject matter. Norman isn’t backing up his opinion with facts, it’s just his point of view

Nope, these things have happened.

More facts here (and you lot blather on mindlessly about the Greens, when there's REAL madness in the current government)

The Post

www.thepost.co.nz

 

[Mr Drag]

He's a shill for big scraps. It was National and Act who signed us up to the Paris agreement, this is the right, this is who they are.

They are full of WEF shills!

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Back in reality land, capitalism and globalisation works when every country focuses on their strengths and natural advantages. This should be the economic platform all parties base off:

1 - NZ should be massive food exporters to the world. We shouldn’t have any carbon tax on food. It’s just stupid. All parties MUST be pro farmers or they are anti NZ.

2 - NZ should be mass producers of cheap renewable energy and associated industries (data storage!). Geothermal, hydro, etc. the green should promote this instead of resource consenting dams out of viability.

3 - we should focus on knowledge industries (movie makers, gaming development, export education, etc). Our education system should be world class to support this.

4 - tourism and clean green NZ’s reputation

5 - exploit our natural resources (gas, oil, gold, etc). We use it so it’s hypocritical to not extract our own. It’s even dafter to ban it here and hold our head high while importing worse for the environment stuff.

These ‘natural advantage’ industries should be our core focus. Government should actively support these even if it’s viewed by some as corrupt. This is why I favour NZ firsts policies (but don’t like the people). They unashamedly identify these areas and push them hard.

There shouldn’t be things like unions crashing the movie industry or greenies stopping hydro schemes (so we use worse options). NZ has to be 100% behind our natural advantage industries to generate the wealth to pay for social services. All other industries should be low priority and supporting the above. Our population should be based on what these industries can support. Our immigration should be based on expanding these areas.

Finally - THIS should be the political discussions. Growing the pie instead of bitching and moaning about how to cut it up while we lose relative wealth and become poorer. Many of the subjects the media focus on are mind numbingly small minded.

 

[Mr Drag]

Nope, these things have happened.

More facts here (and you lot blather on mindlessly about the Greens, when there's REAL madness in the current government)

View attachment 14388

The Post

www.thepost.co.nz

I don't even have to read it to know who the evil witch is!

 

[Worried2Death]

I don't even have to read it to know who the evil witch is!

Can you guess who the globalists are, hiding in the shadows, rubbing their hands, plotting to replace the pakeha.

 

[Mr Drag]

Can you guess who the globalists are, hiding in the shadows, rubbing their hands, plotting to replace the pakeha.

Probably other Pakeha!

 

[Worried2Death]

Probably other Pakeha!

Correct, it's the Irish

 

[Tragic]

If there truly is a power crisis ( sounds like it?) then why let the two big cloud companies put data centres that will have large and growing power requirements in. The upside of having them here vs keeping them in Australia is negligible.
It doesn't make sense when you consider the big picture.
Unless it is all too drive us to crisis so we can consider nuclear, then I can get behind it

 

[Worried2Death]

If there truly is a power crisis ( sounds like it?) then why let the two big cloud companies put data centres that will have large and growing power requirements in. The upside of having them here vs keeping them in Australia is negligible.
It doesn't make sense when you consider the big picture.
Unless it is all too drive us to crisis so we can consider nuclear, then I can get behind it

We should get Peter Thiel to bring his servers and his own nuke generators with him, with the understanding that we get free power. What kind of patriot is he? They'll be the safest nuclear plants in the world right next to all that CIA and Palantir data.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

We should get Peter Thiel to bring his servers and his own nuke generators with him, with the understanding that we get free power. What kind of patriot is he? They'll be the safest nuclear plants in the world right next to all that CIA and Palantir data.

Man, if you invested in Palantir I heard you could be up 450% or something…