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Factually that's correct, there are consequences (although aussie don't seem to be getting any yet for their decision) but morally isn't she correct?Yeah let’s just waltz in & do what Chloe demands… unfortunately decisions like that don’t happen in isolation to other potential consequences. We’re already dealing with a new 15% tariff from our second largest export market who unsurprisingly doesn’t share her opinion, we need to be careful how we move forward on the Israel issue.
Sure however Hamas needs to fuck right off first.Factually that's correct, there are consequences (although aussie don't seem to be getting any yet for their decision) but morally isn't she correct?
It essentially comes down to either standing by and tacitly letting israel/US perform genocide so you don't lose any business or standing up against that knowing their might be economic consequences. It's not hard to know what the right thing to do is.
Uh for that to happen Palestine would need to be formally recognised as a country and allowed an army which is actually a right, unlike the made up right for a country to exist. Otherwise what justification do you have to demand a people remove their only means of self defense?Sure however Hamas needs to fuck right off first.
Definitely some that should be looked at.The current government doesn't believe in regulation. Red tape is believe they call it.
In the real world it's called safety, planning, protection, guardrails, common sense for the good of everyone and the environment.
Well don’t you then just go around in circles? Hamas majority supported?Uh for that to happen Palestine would need to be formally recognised as a country and allowed an army which is actually a right, unlike the made up right for a country to exist. Otherwise what justification do you have to demand a people remove their only means of self defense?
None that I can see, in fact, it gets more like a 6 ring circus everyday.I am not a Luxon fan but when you look across the political spectrum in NZ there really is no great alternative.
Chippie is irrelevant, Seymour is a snake. Winnie might be better but then you get Shane Jones with him.
Where are the great or even good leaders?
ChloeNone that I can see, in fact, it gets more like a 6 ring circus everyday.
This was your post:You have completely missed my point then if that's the conclusion you somehow came to
What was the purpose of singling out māori here Rick?Jesus wept but you're hard work and you still haven't answered my earlier question, just what were you implying?
Big difference between statutory requirements and bureaucratic red tape. For example our Boiler and Pressure Vessel Regs are some of the toughest in the world. Very very few mechanical failures in plant here that are harmful to personnel. As far as I can see, there is no legislation in the pipeline to reduce statutory requirements.
Go back and read the post and for context what it was replying to. It's quite straight forward. Other than that I really can't help you with whatever you want to try and read in to it that actually isn't there.This was your post:
"What a joke of a person and party. If only she put as much effort in to domestic issues rather than foreign matters where she literally doesn't have to do anything but blow wind at. She is a disgrace. The fact she is happy to miss a week of parliament says it all really."
What other conclusion would you have us come to? Juju is 100% correct
Where I think Chloe made a mistake is when she thought that Parliament should decide whether NZ should recognise Palestine as a state. It's not up to Parliament to do that but it's a cabinet decision as covered by the Cabinet Manual as it's to do with Foreign Affairs Policy. She said we should follow Australia's example right now, but the NZ Cabinet doesn't meet again until next Monday. Sorry Chloe, as much as the vast majority of people want to see the end to the killing in Gaza along with the Hamas held hostages released, there's a process that needs to take place and I'm pretty such that Palestine wouldn't be far enough "up the list" to warrant a "special cabinet" meeting before the next scheduled one on Monday.This was your post:
"What a joke of a person and party. If only she put as much effort in to domestic issues rather than foreign matters where she literally doesn't have to do anything but blow wind at. She is a disgrace. The fact she is happy to miss a week of parliament says it all really."
What other conclusion would you have us come to? Juju is 100% correct
Hardly an attack on democracy Mike.No.... an attack on NZ democracy by trying to get the discussion away from the Cabinet, where foreign policy decisions are made, to into Parliament.