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The thread centers on New Zealand's upcoming election, primarily debating the economic management and policy differences between the center-left Labour government and center-right National/ACT opposition. Key criticisms target Labour's fiscal stewardship, citing ballooning government expenditure #7#272, housing unaffordability, and unfulfilled promises like KiwiBuild and dental care expansion #16#12. A user #7 highlighted Labour's annual 9% spending growth versus 1.5% under previous governments, arguing this fueled inflation. National's tax-cut policy faced scrutiny over funding gaps and legality, with user #215 questioning Luxon's reliance on "trust me" assurances.
Leadership competence emerged as a critical theme, particularly in later posts. Luxon drew heavy criticism after a contentious interview where he struggled to defend policy details #194#199#211, while Willis faced backlash for her economic credentials. Hipkins garnered fleeting praise for articulation but was ultimately seen as representing poor governmental outcomes #45#119. A trusted user #308 presented expert economic analysis contradicting Treasury optimism. Infrastructure issues—like Wellington's water crisis and the dental school staffing shortage—were cited as examples of systemic mismanagement #235#12. Notable policy debates included road-user charges for EVs #220, immigration impacts on rents #299, and coalition scenarios involving NZ First #182#258. Early fringe discussions on candidates' rugby allegiances gave way to substantive policy critiques, culminating in grim Treasury forecasts discussed in posts #271#304#308. User #168 also revealed concerns about Labour rushing regulatory changes to entrench policies pre-election.

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Economic Policies, Housing Crisis, Leadership Competence

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It's interesting and desperately sad that the right and far right see journalistic integrity and holding truth to power as ideological. That says it all about the observer.
Mate, ACT and NZ First have bought their own camera crew to his interviews to stop creative editing…

All we want from media is the real story, not spin, bias and agenda.

 

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For the covid spending and the previous government not listening to the Treasury about slowing down spending.

The pandemic was a unique situation. So, some of the decisions you have to make and live with.

My opinion is the decisions early in the pandemic should be more immune to criticism. They should still be reviewed and learnt from.

The pandemic response went on for a few years, so the decisions made later on, like the Treasury advice to slow down, should be more open to criticism. As you have the previous years to learn from.

I've done a lot of work in business continuity. How do you recover from a disaster or from a cyber event etc. The pandemic response is pretty similar. We closed our borders, similar to how a business would cut off its connection to the internet to resolve the breach or patch/rebuild its machines. Similar to vaccinations.

After the fact, you'd have a report to learn from it.

As much as we heard about "saving lives" and health. How much have we seen about health since the pandemic ended? Not the health system but the actual health of the population?

One of the reasons we had lockdowns was our hospitals wouldn't cope. When we finally changed our response and the cases increased, we saw the hospitals become overrun. Headlines for that continue after covid.

Going into the last election and since the election. How much have we heard about investing in our health system? We have probably heard more about roads or other things instead. A sign that things have moved on. But also a worry for the next pandemic.

The other concern for me is education. A lot of kids will be behind where they should be due to being stuck at home.
The immediate media cycle and 12pm stand ups contributed to our response. We felt good when the rest of the world was going bad. We felt bad (Auckland) when the rest of the world was freeing up. We got used to the Michael bakers on the radio (or the Sean plunkets).

There weren’t a lot of pragmatic voices. Or even dissenters who weren’t seen to be frothing at the mouth. I saw a table where the Scandinavian’s spend the least anywhere in the world on their Covid response. Sweden also refused to lock down at the beginning until other countries peer pressured them.

If you were old or compromised you stayed home for the good of society so that normal life can carry on. Everything is hindsight though.
 
The way the country and the world are heading, this may be the best option.

No one seems to have any answers anymore least of all anyone in Politics.

As my Granny always said, This all started when they put Man on the Moon.
The way the country and the world are heading, this may be the best option.

No one seems to have any answers anymore least of all anyone in Politics.

As my Granny always said, This all started when they put Man on the Moon
Granny was right! Whiteys on the moon. Gil scott heron. Lol

 
You've quoted it - how about doing some of the heavy lifting here to back yourself up?
It’s all there, unadulterated, on the treasury website. You want analysis, there has been plenty of journalism on it. You want the data, go to treasury. Look there, (as I have done previously, and posted analysis on it previously) I and draw your own conclusion

Or bury your head in the sand. The choice is yours

There is no opening of your mind unfortunately, so I will waste no more time
 
Fuck Chatgpt and fuck AI summaries. Trash. I want read what PEOPLE think, not that shit.
Do you understand what the word 'hide' or 'summary' means? It does not provide its own context but summarises viewpoints from all sides based on what the users have posted.

In any case, once you find out what the word 'hide' means, maybe try clicking the button to hide it from your own personal view.

It is experimental right now. No need to wet yourself over it just yet.
 
Do you understand what the word 'hide' or 'summary' means? It does not provide its own context but summarises viewpoints from all sides based on what the users have posted.

In any case, once you find out what the word 'hide' means, maybe try clicking the button to hide it from your own personal view.

It is experimental right now. No need to wet yourself over it just yet.
It seems smart enough to ignore the anti-neoliberalism & all right voters are ‘pedos’ accusations.
 
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