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The thread centers on New Zealand's upcoming election, primarily debating the economic management and policy differences between the center-left Labour government and center-right National/ACT opposition. Key criticisms target Labour's fiscal stewardship, citing ballooning government expenditure #7#272, housing unaffordability, and unfulfilled promises like KiwiBuild and dental care expansion #16#12. A user #7 highlighted Labour's annual 9% spending growth versus 1.5% under previous governments, arguing this fueled inflation. National's tax-cut policy faced scrutiny over funding gaps and legality, with user #215 questioning Luxon's reliance on "trust me" assurances.
Leadership competence emerged as a critical theme, particularly in later posts. Luxon drew heavy criticism after a contentious interview where he struggled to defend policy details #194#199#211, while Willis faced backlash for her economic credentials. Hipkins garnered fleeting praise for articulation but was ultimately seen as representing poor governmental outcomes #45#119. A trusted user #308 presented expert economic analysis contradicting Treasury optimism. Infrastructure issues—like Wellington's water crisis and the dental school staffing shortage—were cited as examples of systemic mismanagement #235#12. Notable policy debates included road-user charges for EVs #220, immigration impacts on rents #299, and coalition scenarios involving NZ First #182#258. Early fringe discussions on candidates' rugby allegiances gave way to substantive policy critiques, culminating in grim Treasury forecasts discussed in posts #271#304#308. User #168 also revealed concerns about Labour rushing regulatory changes to entrench policies pre-election.

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She or her photographer sold the picture to a stock photo site.
While counting her cash she or Rafael forgot to read the fine print which says the photo site can do whatever they want with the image and are licensed to do so, including on selling it to anyone who wants to use it
Wonder if she did know her image was for sale on Shutterstock, or if it's just Rafael's hustle.
 

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If you are upset about the precariousness of NZs financial situation, and the lack of infrastructure, ferries, hospitals and the like, have a read of the graph below, published today on nzherald

I can’t imagine what sort of angle you have to look at it and be satisfied that Grant and Cindy didn’t screw over NZ
 

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If you are upset about the precariousness of NZs financial situation, and the lack of infrastructure, ferries, hospitals and the like, have a read of the graph below, published today on nzherald

I can’t imagine what sort of angle you have to look at it and be satisfied that Grant and Cindy didn’t screw over NZ
Yeah but no one died, well not many anyway. Wasn't that the lie that drove the whole debacle?
 
Remember when Chippy told us all that we were “front of the queue” for the vaccine?!
I recall vividly the Saint telling us that the jab would not be mandatory. Nek Minute. Two tier, that's what it is, yup, yup yup.
I cannot recall at any stage of my long life where I have been lied to so bare faced by any politician other than the Queen of Spin and her cohorts.
No wonder she bailed and can't come home, bit like my family trying to get back here on the lottery wheel. Disgrace.
 
Was it a lie or a response to a real threat with unknown mortality, no one knew that initially did they?
What none of us knew (because we weren't told) was that the chinese lung rot wasn't that dangerous unless you were elderly or had comorbidities. We should have looked after and/or isolated those people which wouldn't have been too hard.
The vaccine fix was a fraud, in effect it wasn't actually a vaccine at all. Just a jab to alleviate the symptoms of the flu. Bit like a Panadol. Didn't stop you getting it (like a real vaccine would) and didn't stop anyone passing it on. Another lie. Get the jab, lift the rate to over 90% and then we can all go about our normal business. Another lie. Nek Minute, Dorkland locked down for 3 months.
 
What none of us knew (because we weren't told) was that the chinese lung rot wasn't that dangerous unless you were elderly or had comorbidities. We should have looked after and/or isolated those people which wouldn't have been too hard.
The vaccine fix was a fraud, in effect it wasn't actually a vaccine at all. Just a jab to alleviate the symptoms of the flu. Bit like a Panadol. Didn't stop you getting it (like a real vaccine would) and didn't stop anyone passing it on. Another lie. Get the jab, lift the rate to over 90% and then we can all go about our normal business. Another lie. Nek Minute, Dorkland locked down for 3 months.
Why did they lock down for 3 months if not to save those elderly and vulnerable to it? To keep up the pretense of some farcical lie?
 
What none of us knew (because we weren't told) was that the chinese lung rot wasn't that dangerous unless you were elderly or had comorbidities. We should have looked after and/or isolated those people which wouldn't have been too hard.
The vaccine fix was a fraud, in effect it wasn't actually a vaccine at all. Just a jab to alleviate the symptoms of the flu. Bit like a Panadol. Didn't stop you getting it (like a real vaccine would) and didn't stop anyone passing it on. Another lie. Get the jab, lift the rate to over 90% and then we can all go about our normal business. Another lie. Nek Minute, Dorkland locked
Why did they lock down for 3 months if not to save those elderly and vulnerable to it? To keep up the pretense of some farcical lie?
Idown for 3 months.
Why did they lock down for 3 months if not to save those elderly and vulnerable to it? To keep up the pretense of some farcical lie?
I thought the plan was to protect our health system from completely collapsing
And the health care people being able to continue their work.
I mean that even now we have patients lined up in passage ways and not being treated at all
 
I thought the plan was to protect our health system from completely collapsing
And the health care people being able to continue their work.
I mean that even now we have patients lined up in passage ways and not being treated at all
That's the plan we were sold after seeing the Italian health system collapse and the morgues overflowing. Don't think we got that first strain in nz, but I'm starting to forget the timelines.
 
Why did they lock down for 3 months if not to save those elderly and vulnerable to it? To keep up the pretense of some farcical lie?
Power my friend.
There was one case in Dorkland and they shut the city for 3 months. There was no problem solving or trying to get a balance in "Life NZ"
It was blanket shutdown and anyone who spoke out was regarded as tinfoil hat brigade. The BOR was chucked in the trash can. They could have quite easily identified all those over 70 who were in the zone and isolated them. Check the stats as to the age groupings of who actually choked.
I am really looking forward to the final commission report, pity there will be no criminal charges on the end of it.

Remember, around 500 to 600 people die from influenza in NZ every year. Haven't looked at the stats but would expect the trend to be similar to below which is from Health NZ

COVID-19 cases by age group​

Age groupActive (confirmed and probable)RecoveredDeceasedTotal casesPercentage of all cases
0 to 936228979132290288.4%
10 to 1922334037733406612.2%
20 to 29304410921344113516.1%
30 to 39604587903145888116.8%
40 to 49913928016639295814.4%
50 to 597535216215035238712.9%
60 to 69692647283822651799.7%
70 to 79621633669521643806%
80 to 8973743061791761702.8%
90+24187121344200800.7%
Unknown0490490%
Total542272902247492734313100%
 
I thought the plan was to protect our health system from completely collapsing
And the health care people being able to continue their work.
I mean that even now we have patients lined up in passage ways and not being treated at all
The stats don't back that up JN and it was never mentioned by any pollie that the healthcare system couldn't cope. I've searched for examples but they all state everything is under control, Big Andrew was especially good at it.
 
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