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[MaybeTop8]

i don’t think there’s any doubt over what doyle posted in 2023 and recently deleted then tried to disconnect their personal page from their public page.

pretty wild swarbrick is refusing to explain the meaning of the word bussy as though it’s not obvious to anyone with the internet what it means. i guess if she were to say the meaning it looks super bad for doyle.
she would be better off saying they’re looking into it or reviewing it or some such garbage politicains spout.
just what abouting the death threats is lame.

the death threats are 100% vile and uncalled for and i’m sure are coming from the usual suspects, but you can’t pretend queer community or not that having your kid in your lap with legs open albeit clothed and writing bussy galore and posting it in the fucking internet isn’t sexualising a child. joke or not.

do i think they’re a pedophile?
not for a single second.
do i think it’s a horribly poor taste joke? yes.
is it good enough for a member of parliament?
no absolutely not.

it’s a shame for all the good people in the community do, and especially in the wake of all that man up and tamaki bullshit that someone’s shitty behaviour has come back to bite them on the ass, and undo the goodwill and hard work of others.
i don’t see a way doyle can stay on.
and it’s yet another black eye for the greens.

Well said marv

 

[defensivebomb]

i don’t think there’s any doubt over what doyle posted in 2023 and recently deleted then tried to disconnect their personal page from their public page.

pretty wild swarbrick is refusing to explain the meaning of the word bussy as though it’s not obvious to anyone with the internet what it means. i guess if she were to say the meaning it looks super bad for doyle.
she would be better off saying they’re looking into it or reviewing it or some such garbage politicains spout.
just what abouting the death threats is lame.

the death threats are 100% vile and uncalled for and i’m sure are coming from the usual suspects, but you can’t pretend queer community or not that having your kid in your lap with legs open albeit clothed and writing bussy galore and posting it in the fucking internet isn’t sexualising a child. joke or not.

do i think they’re a pedophile?
not for a single second.
do i think it’s a horribly poor taste joke? yes.
is it good enough for a member of parliament?
no absolutely not.

it’s a shame for all the good people in the community do, and especially in the wake of all that man up and tamaki bullshit that someone’s shitty behaviour has come back to bite them on the ass, and undo the goodwill and hard work of others.
i don’t see a way doyle can stay on.
and it’s yet another black eye for the greens.

It’s fucken weird eh. No matter how charitable someone can be about it, it’s fucken weird

 

[MaybeTop8]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZrAYxWPN6c

 

[marv.]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZrAYxWPN6c

zero issue with her choice of song. i had the LP as a teenager. she wasn’t DJing as a member of parliament, she was DJing as a DJ. she could play ABBA for anyone should care.

 

[marv.]

zero issue with her choice of song. i had the LP as a teenager. she wasn’t DJing as a member of parliament, she was DJing as a DJ. she could play ABBA for anyone should care.

her getting caught out lying or telling half truths last week however…
hahaha

 

[Noitall]

i don’t think there’s any doubt over what doyle posted in 2023 and recently deleted then tried to disconnect their personal page from their public page.

pretty wild swarbrick is refusing to explain the meaning of the word bussy as though it’s not obvious to anyone with the internet what it means. i guess if she were to say the meaning it looks super bad for doyle.
she would be better off saying they’re looking into it or reviewing it or some such garbage politicains spout.
just what abouting the death threats is lame.

the death threats are 100% vile and uncalled for and i’m sure are coming from the usual suspects, but you can’t pretend queer community or not that having your kid in your lap with legs open albeit clothed and writing bussy galore and posting it in the fucking internet isn’t sexualising a child. joke or not.

do i think they’re a pedophile?
not for a single second.
do i think it’s a horribly poor taste joke? yes.
is it good enough for a member of parliament?
no absolutely not.

it’s a shame for all the good people in the community do, and especially in the wake of all that man up and tamaki bullshit that someone’s shitty behaviour has come back to bite them on the ass, and undo the goodwill and hard work of others.
i don’t see a way doyle can stay on.
and it’s yet another black eye for the greens.

Agree with most of what’s said here marv, but always tricky to bring a persons life before they were a representative and hold them to account for it. National’s Sam Uffindell comes to mind with some of his history and a female flatmate so scared she climbed out a window when he was banging on her door so unsafe she felt. Obviously much longer ago than what’s surfaced here about Doyle, but I still feel just like I did then that as voters we have the right to know what makes up these people’s character and we get to vote accordingly. I think if the greens want to continue with him, then voters will have a say one way or another. Obviously if he doesn’t win his electorate, then he still has the potential to serve as a list mp as he is currently? But votes could go against the greens because of their affiliation with him

 

[marv.]

Agree with most of what’s said here marv, but always tricky to bring a persons life before they were a representative and hold them to account for it. National’s Sam Uffindell comes to mind with some of his history and a female flatmate so scared she climbed out a window when he was banging on her door so unsafe she felt. Obviously much longer ago than what’s surfaced here about Doyle, but I still feel just like I did then that as voters we have the right to know what makes up these people’s character and we get to vote accordingly. I think if the greens want to continue with him, then voters will have a say one way or another. Obviously if he doesn’t win his electorate, then he still has the potential to serve as a list mp as he is currently? But votes could go against the greens because of their affiliation with him

fair.
however rape and child molestation jokes are pretty grim at the best of times let alone from an MP.
i think it’ll end up more damage than it’s worth to keep them on and i think swarbrick really needs to stop gaslighting RE: the term. it’s a boy/man asshole but for sex. she’s well aware of that, and she needs to stop side stepping the question of the meaning and going back to death threats.

 

[Boston Boy]

fair.
however rape and child molestation jokes are pretty grim at the best of times let alone from an MP.
i think it’ll end up more damage than it’s worth to keep them on and i think swarbrick really needs to stop gaslighting RE: the term. it’s a boy/man asshole but for sex. she’s well aware of that, and she needs to stop side stepping the question of the meaning and going back to death threats.

Get rid of the pervert. Disgusting to platform someone like that. Police should investigate it. Also I have gay friends who are disgusted by this stuff so trying to make this an attack on the LGBT community is all rubbish. Such double standards from the media. They will jump all over tiny on the right but ignore perversion and sick sexual crap on the left.

 

[Noitall]

fair.
however rape and child molestation jokes are pretty grim at the best of times let alone from an MP.
i think it’ll end up more damage than it’s worth to keep them on and i think swarbrick really needs to stop gaslighting RE: the term. it’s a boy/man asshole but for sex. she’s well aware of that, and she needs to stop side stepping the question of the meaning and going back to death threats.

She’s a politician, nothing different from the direction any other leader would be willing to go down. To be fair, I still haven’t seen what’s at the centre of the controversy but from what’s described it’s in poor taste to say the least. Still think there’s a right of explanation as I mentioned the other day, but also feel many would have made up their mind based on his appearance anyway

 

[MaybeTop8]

There is a brutal culture war going on right now around the western world being waged against anyone different, anyone remotely left, anyone who doesn't fit in with a narrow bigoted conservative view, an utterly regressive view.

This current scandal surfaced in the channels of the far right in New Zealand. It's no coincidence Winston has gotten behind this as well.

This is who the Free Speech Union brought out here to speak two weeks ago.

Peters’ attack on Doyle is vile – and the Greens should have seen it coming

There is no excusing the deputy prime minister's unfounded attacks on Benjamin Doyle, but the Green Party should have done more to protect its newest MP.

thespinoff.co.nz

James Lindsay

James Lindsay has quickly become a leading voice in the reactionary anti-student inclusion, anti-LGBTQ, and conspiracy propaganda movements.

www.splcenter.org

 

[Noitall]

They will jump all over tiny on the right but ignore perversion and sick sexual crap on the left.

Who’s tiny and what did he or she do?

 

[MaybeTop8]

Corporate Diversity Initiatives Should Include White Men

Today’s dominant group needs help embracing tomorrow’s reality.

hbr.org

What about personal responsibility Frank?

And how about the mass brainwashing driven by grifters and conspiracy theorists and the far right? That's got plenty to do with it.

 

[marv.]

Get rid of the pervert. Disgusting to platform someone like that. Police should investigate it. Also I have gay friends who are disgusted by this stuff so trying to make this an attack on the LGBT community is all rubbish. Such double standards from the media. They will jump all over tiny on the right but ignore perversion and sick sexual crap on the left.

just to be clear, i don’t think they’re a pervert. just a super shitty comedian.

something i can definitely relate to.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Get rid of the pervert. Disgusting to platform someone like that. Police should investigate it. Also I have gay friends who are disgusted by this stuff so trying to make this an attack on the LGBT community is all rubbish. Such double standards from the media. They will jump all over tiny on the right but ignore perversion and sick sexual crap on the left.

It's not hard to see your bigotry showing through.

 

[Boston Boy]

There is a brutal culture war going on right now around the western world being waged against anyone different, anyone remotely left, anyone who doesn't fit in with a narrow bigoted conservative view, an utterly regressive view.

 

[Boston Boy]

 

[Boston Boy]

So you have pedo symbolism, sick behaviour. I don't care what you do sexually with two consenting adults. That's your free choice, but with kids... some sick stuff. This is nothing to do with attack minorities, what rubbish.

 

[Boston Boy]

It's not hard to see your bigotry showing through.

Throw out names. Here we go. If we have someone promoting and platforming behaviour that makes children unsafe and more vulnerable to sexual exploitation they should not be in positions of power. It is a norm in any organisation. To suggest he get booted from the party is to demonstrate that this behaviour is abnormal and sick. I have worked in this area and will never apologise for this stand, especially as I have spent extensive amounts of time with people and young people who were sexually exploited. The fact that some seem more worried about those charged with inappropriate behaviour then vulnerable children and precedent this sets is concerning.

 

[Noitall]

Throw out names. Here we go. If we have someone promoting and platforming behaviour that makes children unsafe and more vulnerable to sexual exploitation they should not be in positions of power. It is a norm in any organisation. To suggest he get booted from the party is to demonstrate that this behaviour is abnormal and sick. I have worked in this area and will never apologise for this stand, especially as I have spent extensive amounts of time with people and young people who were sexually exploited. The fact that some seem more worried about those charged with inappropriate behaviour then vulnerable children and precedent this sets is concerning.

Donald Trump Tries to Kiss a Little Girl as She Squirms Away, and It’s Revolting to Watch

Amid accusations of sexual assault, the candidate forced a child into physical intimacy.

slate.com

Is this similar?

 

[Boston Boy]

Donald Trump Tries to Kiss a Little Girl as She Squirms Away, and It’s Revolting to Watch

Amid accusations of sexual assault, the candidate forced a child into physical intimacy.

slate.com

Is this similar?

Nope. There's no pedo symbolism, neither is their language of "bussy GALORE" which is a reference to male anus used as a vagina and highly sexualised allusions.