Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[John Nick]

Call for the Maitre D

More likely a lazy Susan

 

[miket12]

What would @Bruce do?

Blame Eric Watson

 

[kos]

It’s the same in all big box retail (Kmart,big W, target, Bunnings) same in NZ too with the likes of Warehouse etc- even seen them in many petrol stations. Can only think of Decathlon where I haven’t see the option of a manned checkout as an option, given the choice the vast majority will go to a self serve checkout. Theft is an issue as is the annoyance of “item not scanned” but there would have been viability studies and the stock loss will be less than the labour cost by some margin I’d imagine. Manned checkout efficiency is horrendous most will have idle times at more than half their shift so can’t blame businesses for wanting to reduce costs - labour is the biggest controllable.

The charging of bags is to reduce land fill and the reduction has been immense. Agree the quality is lacking compared to plastic- same vein I despise paper straws for the same reason

Customers?
Customer service?
No no and no
Cost reduction and profit rules

What about shoppers like me that do up to 8 or 9 some v big grocery shops a week but end up packing scanning every shop myself.


(The gig economy explains the multi shop)

 

[Worried2Death]

Supermarket shopping is frustrating! Especially on old peoples Tuesday when I used to go.

Now I just send my wife! Takes care of the whole packing bags thing as well I still have to unload and carry up the stairs at home though.

Sending your wife into battle, what a coward.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Sending your wife into battle, what a coward.

Woman love to shop. I’ll mow the lawns.

 

[Worried2Death]

Woman love to shop. I’ll mow the lawns.

I must admit I'd rather be back in Bruce's day getting shot going over the top than spend an hour at Pakas.
Luckily I'm banned from doing the groceries after one too many "trollies full of chips and beer".

 

[John Nick]

I must admit I'd rather be back in Bruce's day getting shot going over the top than spend an hour at Pakas.
Luckily I'm banned from doing the groceries after one too many "trollies full of chips and beer".

Works everytime.

 

[Noitall]

Iceland PM to go on strike with women across country as they push for greater gender quality

The strike hopes to raise awareness about the wage discrimination and gender-based violence faced by women in Iceland.

www.newshub.co.nz

Wonder how this would have gone down for Ardern?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Iceland PM to go on strike with women across country as they push for greater gender quality

The strike hopes to raise awareness about the wage discrimination and gender-based violence faced by women in Iceland.

www.newshub.co.nz

Wonder how this would have gone down for Ardern?

I’m going to go on strike because men have statistically 4 years shorter lives than famales. We should have priority in health care like statistically disadvantaged races do.

Time is worth more than money.

#menmatter

 

[John Nick]

I’m going to go on strike because men have statistically 4 years shorter lives than famales. We should have priority in health care like statistically disadvantaged races do.

Time is worth more than money.

#menmatter

What is a man

 

[snake77]

Iceland PM to go on strike with women across country as they push for greater gender quality

The strike hopes to raise awareness about the wage discrimination and gender-based violence faced by women in Iceland.

www.newshub.co.nz

Wonder how this would have gone down for Ardern?

Probably would depend on what part of her tenure if happened.

At the start it would have gone down quite well overall with small pockets of resentment. Towards the end of her term it would have leaned more to the negative side.

The PM doing this helps push the cause. It would be weird if it was the government that needed to fix equality in the workplace. but as it is a general workplace issue her standing with them makes sense.

Similar to this topic. Companies not only look at gender pay gaps but also the number of females in senior roles etc. My wife works where we first met. They have never had an issue with this as the main function of the company was an industry that would attract a lot of females. The HR Director has been patting herself on the back for what they have achieved in getting females into senior roles, and reporting statistics. My wife told me they are trying to solve an issue that isn't there. I asked if had changed since I left, and she responded no it's still well balanced or more females.

A high-profile case to look at is the U.S women's soccer teams dispute over pay. They have a different pay structure to the men who are under contract. The women are contracted like employees with an annual salary and other benefits. The men get more if they do well which reflects the higher status and the challenge in front of them in doing well in the men's World Cup. The Mens World Cup also brings in more revenue compared to the Womens World Cup. The womens team took the governing body to court. The judge pointed out they got paid more than the men. For example over covid the men didn't play so didn't get paid. Even with a judge outlining it they still persisted.

A talk show had a female journalist interviewing two of them and asked would they give up some of their benefits for the men. One of them had a look on her face that it wasn't a good look. The other one responded it was more nuanced then that. Even though it was proven in a court of law.

 

[Noitall]

Probably would depend on what part of her tenure if happened.

At the start it would have gone down quite well overall with small pockets of resentment. Towards the end of her term it would have leaned more to the negative side.

The PM doing this helps push the cause. It would be weird if it was the government that needed to fix equality in the workplace. but as it is a general workplace issue her standing with them makes sense.

Similar to this topic. Companies not only look at gender pay gaps but also the number of females in senior roles etc. My wife works where we first met. They have never had an issue with this as the main function of the company was an industry that would attract a lot of females. The HR Director has been patting herself on the back for what they have achieved in getting females into senior roles, and reporting statistics. My wife told me they are trying to solve an issue that isn't there. I asked if had changed since I left, and she responded no it's still well balanced or more females.

A high-profile case to look at is the U.S women's soccer teams dispute over pay. They have a different pay structure to the men who are under contract. The women are contracted like employees with an annual salary and other benefits. The men get more if they do well which reflects the higher status and the challenge in front of them in doing well in the men's World Cup. The Mens World Cup also brings in more revenue compared to the Womens World Cup. The womens team took the governing body to court. The judge pointed out they got paid more than the men. For example over covid the men didn't play so didn't get paid. Even with a judge outlining it they still persisted.

A talk show had a female journalist interviewing two of them and asked would they give up some of their benefits for the men. One of them had a look on her face that it wasn't a good look. The other one responded it was more nuanced then that. Even though it was proven in a court of law.

You could be right that early on it could have gone in her favour, on the flip side perhaps the misogyny may have seeped in earlier? We’ll never know. As far as the gender pay equality goes, to me sport is a different case as the revenue and spectatorship should dictate the salaries. I think surfing is the only sport in the world with pay parity for both genders? The workplace as far as senior roles such as CEO’s are also results based, so that should also dictate the salary but in the same role I think a woman should earn the same as their male counterparts. Some trades are a bit of a conundrum such as builders for instance, being realistic a majority of men are stronger than women so handling heavy materials could perhaps be achieved quicker and or easier which could be considered as far as an hourly rate is concerned. As in society, not everything falls into a category easily so a blanket approach isn’t the answer. Many layers.

 

[Matiunz]

You could be right that early on it could have gone in her favour, on the flip side perhaps the misogyny may have seeped in earlier? We’ll never know. As far as the gender pay equality goes, to me sport is a different case as the revenue and spectatorship should dictate the salaries. I think surfing is the only sport in the world with pay parity for both genders? The workplace as far as senior roles such as CEO’s are also results based, so that should also dictate the salary but in the same role I think a woman should earn the same as their male counterparts. Some trades are a bit of a conundrum such as builders for instance, being realistic a majority of men are stronger than women so handling heavy materials could perhaps be achieved quicker and or easier which could be considered as far as an hourly rate is concerned. As in society, not everything falls into a category easily so a blanket approach isn’t the answer. Many layers.

Tennis also has the same prize money for Men’s & women’s- however the Women play 3 sets vs 5 for me mean so you could argue the Men get 40% less pay?

 

[Brightman]

Iceland PM to go on strike with women across country as they push for greater gender quality

The strike hopes to raise awareness about the wage discrimination and gender-based violence faced by women in Iceland.

www.newshub.co.nz

Wonder how this would have gone down for Ardern?

 

[Mr Drag]

Iceland PM to go on strike with women across country as they push for greater gender quality

The strike hopes to raise awareness about the wage discrimination and gender-based violence faced by women in Iceland.

www.newshub.co.nz

Wonder how this would have gone down for Ardern?

She protesting herself! She is the leader of her country

 

[Worried2Death]

She protesting herself! She is the leader of her country

She's the Sinead O'connor of Iceland

 

[Noitall]

She protesting herself! She is the leader of her country

Is she hermaphrodite?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

You could be right that early on it could have gone in her favour, on the flip side perhaps the misogyny may have seeped in earlier? We’ll never know. As far as the gender pay equality goes, to me sport is a different case as the revenue and spectatorship should dictate the salaries. I think surfing is the only sport in the world with pay parity for both genders? The workplace as far as senior roles such as CEO’s are also results based, so that should also dictate the salary but in the same role I think a woman should earn the same as their male counterparts. Some trades are a bit of a conundrum such as builders for instance, being realistic a majority of men are stronger than women so handling heavy materials could perhaps be achieved quicker and or easier which could be considered as far as an hourly rate is concerned. As in society, not everything falls into a category easily so a blanket approach isn’t the answer. Many layers.

I don’t think there would be many workplaces where woman are paid less than men for the exact same roles in the modern workforce would there?

A lot of it is comparing different gender dominated industries and the fact men rise to higher experience positions.

The pay difference seems to be the career choices (eg low paying caring type careers vs physical jobs) and lifestyle choices (babies, not wanting to work full time, etc)

Men work in the industries with the highest fatalities and suicides (farming, forestry, mining, construction). Woman dominate teaching with 12 weeks holidays per year… Careful what you wish for because you just might get it!

 

[Worried2Death]

I don’t think there would be many workplaces where woman are paid less than men for the exact same roles in the modern workforce would there?

A lot of it is comparing different gender dominated industries and the fact men rise to higher experience positions.

The pay difference seems to be the career choices (eg low paying caring type careers vs physical jobs) and lifestyle choices (babies, not wanting to work full time, etc)

Men work in the industries with the highest fatalities and suicides (farming, forestry, mining, construction). Woman dominate teaching with 12 weeks holidays per year… Careful what you wish for because you just might get it!

That's a divisive way of looking at it though, there are no sides, no them and us, they are us #TheyAreUS
I stand with the leader of Iceland (can't pronounce her name).

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

That's a divisive way of looking at it though, there are no sides, no them and us, they are us #TheyAreUS
I stand with the leader of Iceland (can't pronounce her name).

There is currently pay equity legislation for industries that are female dominated claiming they would be higher paid if they were male dominated.

But males and females in that industry still get paid the same.

Again, I don’t think there’s any jobs nowadays with different pay for the same role. It’s illegal. The divisive ones are the people saying there’s a pay gap but can never show a job where the pay is different between a male and female.

And I’m not looking through a men’s lens because I’ve got 2 daughters and I don’t see any barriers to them IF they chose to prioritise careers and not have a family