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I lived it!You should read it and you might get a different perspective
She’s no Helen Clarke…
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She’s no Helen Clarke…
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Getting in is, but our doctors, nurses and treatment is world leading.
No point in having free visits if there is no doctor at the other in to see them
First step must be to get more trained doctors in general practice
Secondly there must be sufficient subsidy on visitation prices for those who currently cannot afford it to allow them to go to the GP
Then as you say the specialist waiting times need to be addressed
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I don’t think I would say world leading but certainly of a very good standard
Somewhat anecdotal but I've heard (from medical staff) that the biggest impediment to doctor numbers here is the medical council and their rules. There are apparently many doctors and trained medical personnel who cannot get a gig here because of the stringent Medical Council of NZ rules and regulations.
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Ahhh… the taxi driver thing…
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Here’s the standard of our opposition:
Dr Duncan Webb is leading Labour’s opposition (to the regulatory standards Bill) and has warned it could take “power away from communities” and give “it to corporate friends of the Act Party”.
Speaking to the Herald, the Labour MP acknowledged there was no legal obligation created by the bill, but instead a “political and moral force” that would lead future legislation to be drafted in a way that puts property rights first.
“It’s an expectation. It’s a starting place for any discussion about how we do more, and that’s dangerous,” Webb said.
He said the section about not creating legal obligations was “really bizarre”.
“I don’t understand what it means, but certainly the values behind the bill are put private property and corporate interests ahead of ordinary New Zealanders.”
There you go, the opposition to the bill doesn’t understand the bill pretty much admits there’s nothing wrong with it but will hysterically opposite it anyway… typifies the intellectual honesty of the opposition atm and why people ignore them.
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Dr Duncan Webb is leading Labour’s opposition (to the regulatory standards Bill) and has warned it could take “power away from communities” and give “it to corporate friends of the Act Party”.
Speaking to the Herald, the Labour MP acknowledged there was no legal obligation created by the bill, but instead a “political and moral force” that would lead future legislation to be drafted in a way that puts property rights first.
“It’s an expectation. It’s a starting place for any discussion about how we do more, and that’s dangerous,” Webb said.
He said the section about not creating legal obligations was “really bizarre”.
“I don’t understand what it means, but certainly the values behind the bill are put private property and corporate interests ahead of ordinary New Zealanders.”
There you go, the opposition to the bill doesn’t understand the bill pretty much admits there’s nothing wrong with it but will hysterically opposite it anyway… typifies the intellectual honesty of the opposition atm and why people ignore them.
Could companies sue for compensation under Seymour's controversial bill?
Labour's Willie Jackson says he doesn't trust Regulation Minister David Seymour.
I can't see mine for 4 weeks minimum and it's been that way for over a year
Typifies your intellectual dishonesty and why we should ignore youHere’s the standard of our opposition:
Dr Duncan Webb is leading Labour’s opposition (to the regulatory standards Bill) and has warned it could take “power away from communities” and give “it to corporate friends of the Act Party”.
Speaking to the Herald, the Labour MP acknowledged there was no legal obligation created by the bill, but instead a “political and moral force” that would lead future legislation to be drafted in a way that puts property rights first.
“It’s an expectation. It’s a starting place for any discussion about how we do more, and that’s dangerous,” Webb said.
He said the section about not creating legal obligations was “really bizarre”.
“I don’t understand what it means, but certainly the values behind the bill are put private property and corporate interests ahead of ordinary New Zealanders.”
There you go, the opposition to the bill doesn’t understand the bill pretty much admits there’s nothing wrong with it but will hysterically opposite it anyway… typifies the intellectual honesty of the opposition atm and why people ignore them.
Could companies sue for compensation under Seymour's controversial bill?
Labour's Willie Jackson says he doesn't trust Regulation Minister David Seymour.
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Quick, quote Anne Salmon and her 7 followers to distract us that it’s a big deal because the Labour MPs don’t know what’s going on
This is just a really clear example of opposition for the sake of it - can’t articulate the issues clearly but it’s a ACT thing so we must oppose.
No big deal really because Labour will cancel it in their first 100 days (but still won’t know why its an issue
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I have heard the same from my previous doctor who has now decided to retire(in his early 60s).
He asked the well known health practice for a salary upgrade & was declined.Even though several of his local patients lobbied the practice to keep him on.( he was brilliant ).
I have doubts that this Govt. throwing more money at GPs will find its way to entice him back.
Every one I have spoken to including the practice nurses & staff are disappointed in the decision & to have him lost to the community.
I’m sure Mountain Tui can give us the high level analysis we’ve all been missingQuick, quote Anne Salmon and her 7 followers to distract us that it’s a big deal because the Labour MPs don’t know what’s going on
This is just a really clear example of opposition for the sake of it - can’t articulate the issues clearly but it’s a ACT thing so we must oppose.
No big deal really because Labour will cancel it in their first 100 days (but still won’t know why its an issue
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Doctors get paid significantly more in the public system because of unions and prioritising their own workforce.
Practices are closed due to lack of funding. Just in our own area JN:
A Pāpāmoa GP clinic that serves 6000 patients is closing and an owner says it is “absolutely not viable anymore” due to the GP shortage and government underfunding.
‘Pāpāmoa Pines Medical Centre on Domain Rd will close in mid-April after about 15 years in the fast-growing suburb.
Its 6000 patients will now be served at the business’ newer clinic in Pāpāmoa East, Pāpāmoa Pines Medical Centre on The Boulevard, which already serves about 4000 patients.
In a message to patients on Tuesday, Pāpāmoa Pines Medical Group said government funding of general practice was in “a very perilous state”.
“After considerable reflection and exhaustive exploration of ways to recruit more GPs … we have made the decision to embark on a downsizing of our business to ensure our sustainability and our viability long term.”
'Absolutely not viable anymore': GP clinic serving 6000 patients to close
The owner says closing site was a difficult decision after it lost 'quite a few' GPs.
Do you have any idea how this funding will entice Doctors back to practices.Doctors get paid significantly more in the public system because of unions and prioritising their own workforce.
Practices are closed due to lack of funding. Just in our own area JN:
A Pāpāmoa GP clinic that serves 6000 patients is closing and an owner says it is “absolutely not viable anymore” due to the GP shortage and government underfunding.
‘Pāpāmoa Pines Medical Centre on Domain Rd will close in mid-April after about 15 years in the fast-growing suburb.
Its 6000 patients will now be served at the business’ newer clinic in Pāpāmoa East, Pāpāmoa Pines Medical Centre on The Boulevard, which already serves about 4000 patients.
In a message to patients on Tuesday, Pāpāmoa Pines Medical Group said government funding of general practice was in “a very perilous state”.
“After considerable reflection and exhaustive exploration of ways to recruit more GPs … we have made the decision to embark on a downsizing of our business to ensure our sustainability and our viability long term.”
'Absolutely not viable anymore': GP clinic serving 6000 patients to close
The owner says closing site was a difficult decision after it lost 'quite a few' GPs.
I would have thought that relaxing of eligibility rules of the Medical Council ( as mentioned above by Rick) would have been a better idea.
Seems like they are wanting a closed shop which can only be in their own interests
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Like everything it’s complex.
This funding is a record amount but the minimum needed. Nurses and doctors are still paid less privately than in public.
It’s as much doctors can earn more in hospitals than they are underpaid in private practice. The GP clinics can’t compete based on current funding.
To me we need many more doctors. Heaps more. The botteneck seems to be we only train 50 something per year and we need lots more. Prioritise our own before immigration.
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Yeah or Mega Tron Ron or David Goggins.
Surely if we have trained immigrant Medical people who are living permanently in NZ the Medical Council shouldn't be standing in the way of them taking jobs in health system
I mean every second doctor I have seen of late has been a foreigner.
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