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[FormerlyJamesW]

Soon they will all have baseball bats behind the counter. Whack a few teenagers and the youth crime will go back to how it used to be in the good old days when there were consequences.

I wouldn't blame them. Doesn't worry me, as I pay for my stuff

I think people have thrown the baby out with the bath water when it comes to how people were raised back in the day.

One could be forgiven for saying that I like to 'pick and choose', but I completely reject the premise of 'if one thing is bad, it's all bad'

 

[John Nick]

As I understand it this idea came from a grassroots small business dairy association.

Soon they will all have baseball bats behind the counter. Whack a few teenagers and the youth crime will go back to how it used to be in the good old days when there were consequences.

Really. I am sure that the perpetrators will come with weapons/guns knowing that they are more likely to be confronted.

 

[juju]

You don't need 100 + hours of driving lessons to sit your restricted licence.
NZTA recommend it but it's certainly not a prerequisite.
This can be fact checked very easily.
+ I have a teenage daughter going through the process right now.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Really. I am sure that the perpetrators will come with weapons/guns knowing that they are more likely to be confronted.

That’s a big step up in risk arming yourself. Hopefully it won’t go that way.

This will stop most of the kids because they won’t take that step and those kids won’t grow up doing it as adults.

We stopped police chases and everyone nobody stopped for police anymore. Started chasing them again and the stats went back down.

You need deterrents don’t you?

 

[miket12]

You don't need 100 + hours of driving lessons to sit your restricted licence.
NZTA recommend it but it's certainly not a prerequisite.
This can be fact checked very easily.
+ I have a teenage daughter going through the process right now.

Good luck with that.... I hope she's not learning in the Skoda!!!

 

[juju]

Good luck with that.... I hope she's not learning in the Skoda!!!

Already scrapped the rims ffs!

 

[miket12]

Already scrapped the rims ffs!

Oh dear. Time to "invest" in a '94 Corolla?

 

[FormerlyJamesW]

+ I have a teenage daughter going through the process right now.

Am I safe to assume that you are putting in the time to teach said daughter how to drive?

I only ask as I've always thought of driving as one of those 'life skills' that parents pass down to their kids.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Good luck with that.... I hope she's not learning in the Skoda!!!

I’ve had 3 teenagers go through it plus all their friends.

Statistically there’s well over a 50% failure rate (which means everyone fails once and then passes making 50%). Hardcore when most have done all the lessons and the teachers says they are ready and the still fail on ‘not checking your mirrors enough’

I taught all 3 of my kids and they had 3 paid lessons before testing. 2 passed first time and the best driver failed first time/ passed second. I sat in the test all times and I think it helps the pass rate…

 

[juju]

Am I safe to assume that you are putting in the time to teach said daughter how to drive?

I only ask as I've always thought of driving as one of those 'life skills' that parents pass down to their kids.

Yeah I am - it's a white knuckle experience though, especially when you have a car your quite fond of...

 

[Bay39er]

How are you finding it?

A fabulous experience
Numerous outstanding monuments, temples etc. to visit
Climate is great at moment
People (other than those who are begging on the street) are respectful and friendly
Food is great
Accommodation we have chosen is superb
Driving is horrendous but it works
Roads are shite
You have to look past the grime and squalor
Have visited Delhi, Agra, Ranthambhore, Jaipur, Bikaner, Jaisalmer and Jodphur so far with a couple more to go
Not sure why we didn’t come when younger

 

[FormerlyJamesW]

Yeah I am - it's a white knuckle experience though, especially when you have a car your quite fond of...

I could imagine.

But it's your duty as a parent to make sure this gets taught, right?

100 hours, as a 'recommended' seems like not a lot, in the context of such an important life long skill to have.

 

[miket12]

Yeah I am - it's a white knuckle experience though, especially when you have a car your quite fond of...

My best man has three kids..... his daughter (first born) was dead scared driving on the motorway for the first time and only drove at 45kms.

His oldest son decided he was SVG and wanted to set a land speed record his first time on the onramp.

His youngest son went to a driving school

 

[FormerlyJamesW]

His oldest son decided he was SVG and wanted to set a land speed record his first time on the onramp.

I learnt to drive in a column shift, low gear ratio, Hilux for this exact reason.

 

[juju]

I could imagine.

But it's your duty as a parent to make sure this gets taught, right?

100 hours, as a 'recommended' seems like not a lot, in the context of such an important life long skill to have.

100 hours private tuition is would be over the top.
100 hours of road time is not alot to get your skills up - the whole point of the learners licence.

It is the duty of a parent I reckon.

Our forum sovereign citizen was trying to say it was impossible without 100 hours. Its not.

 

[miket12]

A fabulous experience
Numerous outstanding monuments, temples etc. to visit
Climate is great at moment
People (other than those who are begging on the street) are respectful and friendly
Food is great
Accommodation we have chosen is superb
Driving is horrendous but it works
Roads are shite
You have to look past the grime and squalor
Have visited Delhi, Agra, Ranthambhore, Jaipur, Bikaner, Jaisalmer and Jodphur so far with a couple more to go
Not sure why we didn’t come when younger

I love Jaipur.... my favourite city in India. Did you get a chance to go to Jantar Mantar? Amazing for something built in the 1700's. For those who don't know it, it's an observatory which includes a sundial which is accurate to 2 seconds.

https://www.tourism.rajasthan.gov.in/jantar-mantar.html

For me, the Red Fort in Dehli is far more impressive than the Taj Mahal.

 

[Bay39er]

I love Jaipur.... my favourite city in India. Did you get a chance to go to Jantar Mantar? Amazing for something built in the 1700's. For those who don't know it, it's an observatory which includes a sundial which is accurate to 2 seconds.

https://www.tourism.rajasthan.gov.in/jantar-mantar.html

For me, the Red Fort in Dehli is far more impressive than the Taj Mahal.

Yes went to Jantar Mantar - incredible. I checked it against my iPhone time and it was spot on.
There are too many forts in Rajasthan to compare but the best we have visited is the Mehrangarh fort here in Jodhpur.
The “worst” temple we have visited is Karni Mata in Jaisalmer - it is a temple wth an estimated 30,000 rats inhabiting it and they are running over your feet!

 

[FormerlyJamesW]

100 hours private tuition is would be over the top.

Agreed. Personally, I never had any private tuition. Although, I did find defensive driving (at high school) to be pretty handy.

100 hours of road time is not alot to get your skills up - the whole point of the learners licence.

I dunno. I guess it varies from person to person. I'll concede that a lot of drivers I see probably wouldn't get any better after 1000 hours of practice.

 

[miket12]

@Bay39er Haven't been to Karni Mata.... from how you and others have described it, certainly not on my bucket list!!!

 

[Mr Drag]

When are the many right wing commentators on here going to speak up about the fascism, disinformation, authoritarianism and corruption on the right around the world, and here?

I have been saying for years The māori Party are full of what you say!