The Guardian, the bastion of the far left is aghast at cuts to public servants? Next you'll be quoting the Karl Marx Foundation regarding welfare changes.
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Of all your bad takes, this is up there with the worst
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It’s COVID; the political response and the reserve banks slow yo-yo reactions.
There can be more than one reason, but I’m glad your paying attention
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Interesting.... the initial project estimate sold to the Labour government in 2018 was for $900 mill.... last year, KiwiRail asked for an additional $1.5 billion (after already receiving more money from GrantR) to a "final price" of $3 billion when the project got cancelled. That's a 425% increase over 5 years or an average increase of 85% PA. But, a change of government means that an increase of only 33% PA..... jerks, cooking the books by only estimating an increase of 33% when they should have kept to Labour's average increase and said the iRex plan was going to cost $5.5 bill.And the ferries - what a fucking disaster. Economically literate? This government is the most destructive, abhorrent, cruel, regressive government we've had and that's saying something.
Wiz is more economically literate than this coalition.
Of the rich, by the rich, for the rich, of the wealthy, by the wealthy, for the wealthy, of the few, by the few, for the few, of the corrupt, by the corrupt, for the corrupt.
Neoliberalism at it's finest all around.
Luxon & Willis Double Down on Ferries Debacle
And Government Sneakily Shifts the Estimates from $3b to $4bnmountaintui.substack.com
Mans cookingScattergun when trying to pin you down!
What privatisation? Data please? And didn’t you say the ‘coalition of chaos’ would implode (hasnt); most unpopular ever (still the same in polls a year later)
Agree this and the last have been polar opposite. Which is the most divisive depends on what side you’re on. What is the biggest law change affecting Maori?
We’ve been choked by regulation and our productivity stats back this up.
Drop of 700 employees over a year 1.1%. Not 10’s of thousand. A single building company has lost more employees than this. labour started reducing govt budgets before the election. Source:
Workforce Data - Workforce size | Te Kawa Mataaho Public Service Commission
The data we collect provides information about the size of the Public Service workforce, how much was spent on contractors and consultants and the composition of the wider public sector.www.publicservice.govt.nz
Is this a joke? The whole country had to keep working from home. We had to work while our kids did school from home. Do you look for reasons to be a victim?
It has been the reserve bank manufacturing the recession under Labour and National. Data about bashing beneficiaries? Requiring them to try for work is a in the best interests of the beneficiary.
Kiwibuild; light rail; cycle bridge over the harbour; ferries - all had 6 years with nothing done.
NZ Herald rated as NZ's most politically balanced media outlet - theFacts.
Deaths in New Zealand by Cause, 2019thefacts.nz
Back up your corruption claim with sources please
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It's going to be slow if any growth i reckon. The government are still contracting spending to try and hit the targets they set, so public sector isn't going to provide it ( rightly or wrongly).
I am seeing some companies preparing for a fast start in 2025 with IT projects but mostly in sectors where they don't grow the poor but just cannibalize each other ( eg gentailers) or save costs. So not sure if there is growth coming from private sector anytime soon.
Milk price should help give us a boost if it stays up.
Longer term no recent government has given me any how that we are investing for future growth and this one seems to be doing the opposite.
Looks like they are trending downwards in polling over the last quarter, but seem to be up and down throughout the year anyway.
Can we all just pause for a second, whichever side people are on, and appreciate this insult? It’s actually quite good
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Take this ramble as a grain of salt, im just someone with to much freetime.
As i'm more for goverment spending/public goods and am a pro-enviroment kidna guy. But just this talk around goverment incentives that inspire/grow the econamy do not really exist anymore and the current couple of goverments allways seem more focused on social issues and pay backs to some previous goverment. Has got me thinking about an idea i like to talk to people about.
It's always been disappointing that NZ, as arguably the best agricultural nation in the world, hasn't tried to lead farmers into a more pro-environment style with a carrot rather than a stick. We fine and tax on environmental impacts for farmers, which obviously leads to an adversarial relationship between farmers and a more pro-environment populace. And in my opinon has never worked in countries with a smaller farmer population. So how the fuck could that kind shtick work in NZ where 10% of us work in the farming industry.
It's always quite hard to marry together NZ identity on a lot of things. One of them being pro-agriculture and one being pro-nature. It's our two biggest industries, tourism and dairy. So why do we never have any economic policies to try and marry them up, to boost one another? A smart government, in my opinion, could sell NZ as having some of the greenest, most advanced style exports of food. So what i guess im making an arugment here is for a inititive to make NZ farming the most advanced and eco-friendly in the world via goverment funding into R&D at select uni's that already specialize in it, goverment subsides and global marketing (I.E Malaysia Kitchen Programme).
Interestingly, NZ farmers receive minimal government subsidies compared to other developed nations. Support to agricultural producers in New Zealand consistently ranks among the lowest in the OECD, with the Producer Support Estimate averaging 0.7% of gross farm receipts during 2020-22, far below the OECD average. This lack of subsidies has led our farmers to become more efficient and market-driven. However, introducing targeted financial incentives for sustainable practices could further enhance our agricultural sector's global competitiveness. But this would have to be done with a very light hand. I.E scientists claculate per region, the best cow to hectare raito. If you reach it or get close to it then some kind of tax brake or subsidy. This would have to be reclaculated often tho.
Our dairy cows could have the least amount of ecological impact if we invest in Lincoln University's agriculture and science departments. They already have initiatives focusing on variable milking, plantain forage, and lowering heifer replacement rates to promote sustainable dairy farming practices.
These farmers will not listen to kids from Auckland or Wellington Uni (at least the many I've been surrounded by in Canterbury). But they do listen to Lincoln Uni kids and Massey kids. We are, I'm pretty sure, a world leader, but we could truly be the best by a long shot if we make our agriculture industry the best in the world. And it's not just about outputs, i.e., how many cows can a farmer fit on a field, as that is how they are currently measured in NZ. If we put incentives on getting more out of a single cow while still limiting herd sizes, we could not only market our industries as a premium product but also market our tourism industry by proxy as well. If every international product we sell is now premium and green, then of course our country will be the same.
This would also make the workload on your average farmer easier and more modern. Because fuck me if their workload already insane, but it'd also attract in a younger generation of farmers. Not only that, but it will also hopefully begin to break the cycle in the farming industry where one person owns the land, one person owns the tools/cattle, and one person is in charge of the herds. You would lower the barrier to entry; with more efficient herds and an encouragement to keep them low in number, you would need less land, less tools. It'd also bring the larger communities closer, as you'd have people outside of farmers directly interacting with the day-to-day of farming.
As i'm more for goverment spending/public goods and am a pro-enviroment kidna guy. But just this talk around goverment incentives that inspire/grow the econamy do not really exist anymore and the current couple of goverments allways seem more focused on social issues and pay backs to some previous goverment. Has got me thinking about an idea i like to talk to people about.
It's always been disappointing that NZ, as arguably the best agricultural nation in the world, hasn't tried to lead farmers into a more pro-environment style with a carrot rather than a stick. We fine and tax on environmental impacts for farmers, which obviously leads to an adversarial relationship between farmers and a more pro-environment populace. And in my opinon has never worked in countries with a smaller farmer population. So how the fuck could that kind shtick work in NZ where 10% of us work in the farming industry.
It's always quite hard to marry together NZ identity on a lot of things. One of them being pro-agriculture and one being pro-nature. It's our two biggest industries, tourism and dairy. So why do we never have any economic policies to try and marry them up, to boost one another? A smart government, in my opinion, could sell NZ as having some of the greenest, most advanced style exports of food. So what i guess im making an arugment here is for a inititive to make NZ farming the most advanced and eco-friendly in the world via goverment funding into R&D at select uni's that already specialize in it, goverment subsides and global marketing (I.E Malaysia Kitchen Programme).
Interestingly, NZ farmers receive minimal government subsidies compared to other developed nations. Support to agricultural producers in New Zealand consistently ranks among the lowest in the OECD, with the Producer Support Estimate averaging 0.7% of gross farm receipts during 2020-22, far below the OECD average. This lack of subsidies has led our farmers to become more efficient and market-driven. However, introducing targeted financial incentives for sustainable practices could further enhance our agricultural sector's global competitiveness. But this would have to be done with a very light hand. I.E scientists claculate per region, the best cow to hectare raito. If you reach it or get close to it then some kind of tax brake or subsidy. This would have to be reclaculated often tho.
Our dairy cows could have the least amount of ecological impact if we invest in Lincoln University's agriculture and science departments. They already have initiatives focusing on variable milking, plantain forage, and lowering heifer replacement rates to promote sustainable dairy farming practices.
These farmers will not listen to kids from Auckland or Wellington Uni (at least the many I've been surrounded by in Canterbury). But they do listen to Lincoln Uni kids and Massey kids. We are, I'm pretty sure, a world leader, but we could truly be the best by a long shot if we make our agriculture industry the best in the world. And it's not just about outputs, i.e., how many cows can a farmer fit on a field, as that is how they are currently measured in NZ. If we put incentives on getting more out of a single cow while still limiting herd sizes, we could not only market our industries as a premium product but also market our tourism industry by proxy as well. If every international product we sell is now premium and green, then of course our country will be the same.
This would also make the workload on your average farmer easier and more modern. Because fuck me if their workload already insane, but it'd also attract in a younger generation of farmers. Not only that, but it will also hopefully begin to break the cycle in the farming industry where one person owns the land, one person owns the tools/cattle, and one person is in charge of the herds. You would lower the barrier to entry; with more efficient herds and an encouragement to keep them low in number, you would need less land, less tools. It'd also bring the larger communities closer, as you'd have people outside of farmers directly interacting with the day-to-day of farming.
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Top post.
I would add to this that we promote less ‘city and professional occupations’ and more rural. 80% of the country work in the service industries - yet 80% of our income is from primary produce, tourism and our green image.
Eg. I would like to see councils work with farmers to manage land environmentally - remove weed plants, plant native road frontages, manage wetlands, etc. uni students summer jobs, under employed work teams, etc
This helps our primary producers, tourism and enhances our clean green image. Build on our strengths and what makes us wealthy. More govt paper pushers don’t help…
Wow… Am I promoting a provincial growth fund type set up?
I always thought it was a bit shit that places like Franz Josef have to use rates to pay for public goods like public toilets etc. Which obiviously they cannot pay for if bearly anyone lives there but they still need to supprot tourists. Obiviously there are things like the Tourism Infrastructure Fund and the Tourism Levy. But i think that leads a ambulance at the bottom of the cliff situation. Where you only get the money long after the tourism period and then have to wait on our very slow goverment to hopfully provision those funds correctly. Personally i think a percentage of the GST tax, i.e maybe 1-2% of the 15% should go into the community you spent it in. I.E if i buy a three day hire on a quadbike in Te Anau for 4k, 80 bucks should go to Te Anau of the 600 bucks of tax.
That way the funds would correctly be going to places where they are needed. Although that would outweigh rich activites over poorer ones. And therefore i still think you need the tourism levy and some of that fund to go towards the less finicial lucrtive activities. I.E hiking, fishing etc. And hopfully cause pretty good growth in those regions that invest back into there infrastructure, liike queenstown with there very cheap busses.
Only real issue i see, would be making sure those funds are visable to the public and where they are spent. As im sure with most council it's pretty easy to spend it on upgraded cars/offices instead of public goods like libraries. Looking at your christchurch city concil.
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Labour finance spokesperson caught out cooking the books and using misinformation to try to say the debt decreased under the last labour government…
The facts - oh for a Clarke/ Cullen Labour govt again
The facts - oh for a Clarke/ Cullen Labour govt again
The poison of neoliberalism in the world, in this country. Act are actively working to steal our democracy, with the backing of Atlas.
It's already an authoritarian oligarchy. The right play a very, very long game, and they won't stop. Those directing this, those in power are greedy, wealthy parasites.
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It's already an authoritarian oligarchy. The right play a very, very long game, and they won't stop. Those directing this, those in power are greedy, wealthy parasites.
The Overshadowed Bill Poised to Rewrite New Zealand’s Legal System
While Attention is Fixed on the Treaty Principles Bill, Another Bill Threatens Sweeping Change
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Are you a conspiracy theorist bro?The poison of neoliberalism in the world, in this country. Act are actively working to steal our democracy, with the backing of Atlas.
It's already an authoritarian oligarchy. The right play a very, very long game, and they won't stop. Those directing this, those in power are greedy, wealthy parasites.
The Overshadowed Bill Poised to Rewrite New Zealand’s Legal System
While Attention is Fixed on the Treaty Principles Bill, Another Bill Threatens Sweeping Change
Did man really land on the moon or was it a conspiracy by corrupt politicians?
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Are you on holiday mate? You are very active again! Great to cap off another tough year and survive to 25!
Is it cruel when a parent has to be responsible and stop the kid from having everything they want when the families in financial strife?
Regulator to deregister Waipareira over political donations
A long-running dispute over the charity's political-party financing reaches its end-game.
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I could go either way with this one, it is odd that we haven't gone back in over 50 years when you think how much technology has advanced
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It’s all about the flag…
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Everyone's on holiday and it turns into a cooker thread, happens every year. Pretty sure Atlas is real and actively plotting our doom in the shadow kingdom though tbf.
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