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[MaybeTop8]

Instead of causing pain and misery to those who can least afford it how about starting here:

 

[MaybeTop8]

Gordon Campbell spot on:

On Nicola Willis And Her Surplus Fetish

So.... according to the Treasury, we’ll have to borrow $17.1 billion by June 2028, to help fund a nearly $10B tax cut programme paid for by slashing our public services. Conventional political wisdom to the contrary, there is little public support for ...

www.scoop.co.nz

 

[miket12]

Instead of causing pain and misery to those who can least afford it how about starting here:

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While I totally agree that we need to sign up to Pillar Two and also introduce a Digital Services Tax (DST) to prevent companies like Google NZ transferring profits overseas as "service fees", we also have to be careful how we go about it.

Officials in NZ think that a DST would bring in about $90m a year. But, based on France’s experience with software exports to the US following its introduction of a DST, it saw possible retaliatory tariffs of $US100m a year. Is it worth doing if another country introduces tariffs against NZ which cost more than the revenue a DST would bring in?

 

[miket12]

We. Can't. Afford. Tax. Cuts.

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Gordon Campbell spot on:

On Nicola Willis And Her Surplus Fetish

So.... according to the Treasury, we’ll have to borrow $17.1 billion by June 2028, to help fund a nearly $10B tax cut programme paid for by slashing our public services. Conventional political wisdom to the contrary, there is little public support for ...

www.scoop.co.nz

Interesting, Hickey says it's $14.7 Billion in tax cuts while Campbell say's it $10 Billion. What's $4.7 Billion between friends? Oh, an interislander ferry service and a new Stadium for Auckland.

Hickey says that government debt is rising while Campbell says it's falling.

Who do we believe?

 

[marv.]

Labour asking supporters to hand over tax cuts to fund election bid

Labour asking supporters to hand over tax cuts to fund election bidDo Labour like the tax cuts or not? Are they too miserly or are they enough to help fund a campaign?In an strange plot twist, the Labour Party - vehemently opposed to National's "irresponsible" tax cuts - is asking its supporters...

tkr.ro

hahaha holy shit.
the absolute desperation.

 

[Noitall]

Labour asking supporters to hand over tax cuts to fund election bid

Labour asking supporters to hand over tax cuts to fund election bidDo Labour like the tax cuts or not? Are they too miserly or are they enough to help fund a campaign?In an strange plot twist, the Labour Party - vehemently opposed to National's "irresponsible" tax cuts - is asking its supporters...

tkr.ro

hahaha holy shit.
the absolute desperation.

Political donations: people power no match for big business

Experts have renewed their calls for a cap on donations as the gap between the left and the right widens, giving National the upper hand.

newsroom.co.nz

This gives an indication of the reasoning. Labour relies on small donations while national collects bigger dollars donations

 

[marv.]

Political donations: people power no match for big business

Experts have renewed their calls for a cap on donations as the gap between the left and the right widens, giving National the upper hand.

newsroom.co.nz

This gives an indication of the reasoning. Labour relies on small donations while national collects bigger dollars donations

oh yeah for sure dude, i get it.
and trust me, i’m no fan of the right either.
it’s just such a cuck move is all.

hipkins is 100% that dude that always rushes to comfort the girl you just broke up with.

 

[miket12]

Labour asking supporters to hand over tax cuts to fund election bid

Labour asking supporters to hand over tax cuts to fund election bidDo Labour like the tax cuts or not? Are they too miserly or are they enough to help fund a campaign?In an strange plot twist, the Labour Party - vehemently opposed to National's "irresponsible" tax cuts - is asking its supporters...

tkr.ro

hahaha holy shit.
the absolute desperation.

Don't know how the hell they got my email, but, leading up to the Election, I got a couple of emails from Bishop asking for money for National.... all he got instead was me hitting the "Unscribe" button!!!

 

[Noitall]

Don't know how the hell they got my email, but, leading up to the Election, I got a couple of emails from Bishop asking for money for National.... all he got instead was me hitting the "Unscribe" button!!!

Recall you mentioning that in a post

 

[Noitall]

oh yeah for sure dude, i get it.
and trust me, i’m no fan of the right either.
it’s just such a cuck move is all.

hipkins is 100% that dude that always rushes to comfort the girl you just broke up with.

He’ll keep chipping away

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

We. Can't. Afford. Tax. Cuts.

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So we shouldn’t increase any benefits? Shouldn’t increase the pension? Shouldn’t give any pay increase to govt employees? Should pay more to those striking junior doctors? Should have given nurses and teachers pay rises the last few years while in deficit?

Or do you just think minimum wage workers and the working poor don’t deserve it?

Labour did all those things while in deficit and borrowing billions to pay for it…

Arguably borrowing to put more money into working peoples pay does more for the investment and stimulation of the economy than those other things…

 

[MaybeTop8]

Interesting, Hickey says it's $14.7 Billion in tax cuts while Campbell say's it $10 Billion. What's $4.7 Billion between friends? Oh, an interislander ferry service and a new Stadium for Auckland.

Hickey says that government debt is rising while Campbell says it's falling.

Who do we believe?

24 billion? That's even worse!!

 

[miket12]

Damn, the cops found the cash crop I was growing in the green house..... I'll be lying low for a little while.

Inside the $15 million cannabis drug bust at former Auckland market gardens

Drug set-up was the largest police have found in Counties Manukau.

www.nzherald.co.nz

 

[miket12]

I feel for Rawiri Waititi who last year buried his mother and now his father has past away.

 

[Noitall]

So we shouldn’t increase any benefits? Shouldn’t increase the pension? Shouldn’t give any pay increase to govt employees? Should pay more to those striking junior doctors? Should have given nurses and teachers pay rises the last few years while in deficit?

Or do you just think minimum wage workers and the working poor don’t deserve it?

Labour did all those things while in deficit and borrowing billions to pay for it…

Arguably borrowing to put more money into working peoples pay does more for the investment and stimulation of the economy than those other things…

It’s tough trying to keep everyone happy, imagine trying to do it in a climate as close to a war time effort in a pandemic? Pretty impressive really, one thing I appreciated was a pay freeze on themselves while the rest of us struggled through. As the world tries to recover from the stress and burden that pandemic put on our countries, a tax cut that will cost in borrowing doesn’t seem like smart money management when the amount passed out has such a pitiful ability to make a difference realistically to the average person needing relief. People are being asked to tighten their belts, so that pitiful amount passed isn’t going to stimulate the economy whatsoever if it’s saved like asked

 

[Noitall]

Damn, the cops found the cash crop I was growing in the green house..... I'll be lying low for a little while.

Inside the $15 million cannabis drug bust at former Auckland market gardens

Drug set-up was the largest police have found in Counties Manukau.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Shame there’s been no alterations to anything regarding this after a referendum showed there was an appetite for changes. Not to mention the wastage in police resources and the ability to make a change as for as it being a gang money maker

 

[dean]

It’s tough trying to keep everyone happy, imagine trying to do it in a climate as close to a war time effort in a pandemic? Pretty impressive really, one thing I appreciated was a pay freeze on themselves while the rest of us struggled through. As the world tries to recover from the stress and burden that pandemic put on our countries, a tax cut that will cost in borrowing doesn’t seem like smart money management when the amount passed out has such a pitiful ability to make a difference realistically to the average person needing relief. People are being asked to tighten their belts, so that pitiful amount passed isn’t going to stimulate the economy whatsoever if it’s saved like asked

I think people will appreciate the tax relief. It will make a difference for middle income earners with kids especially.
Money is really tight. Very difficult to sell anything at present. Had the house on the market for nine months now and hardly any lookers.

 

[dean]

Shame there’s been no alterations to anything regarding this after a referendum showed there was an appetite for changes. Not to mention the wastage in police resources and the ability to make a change as for as it being a gang money maker

Never happen under National, that is the main reason I don't consider voting for them.

 

[Noitall]

I think people will appreciate the tax relief. It will make a difference for middle income earners with kids especially.
Money is really tight. Very difficult to sell anything at present. Had the house on the market for nine months now and hardly any lookers.

But when you want to be critical of the opposition spending habits, after what we’ve endured in the covid pandemic and had to borrow to keep to country going, it seems hypocritical to borrow more when even with the mass cuts placed everywhere there still needs borrowing to make them happen. This isn’t the time for them, as I’ve mentioned, they’ve run four separate elections on tax cuts and finally delivered them when the country can least afford it

 

[MaybeTop8]

I think people will appreciate the tax relief. It will make a difference for middle income earners with kids especially.
Money is really tight. Very difficult to sell anything at present. Had the house on the market for nine months now and hardly any lookers.

But all the cuts and inflation have seen everything else go up. The tax cuts will fuel inflation and the austerity measures will inflict huge unnecessary pain on those who can't afford it, and even those who can.

And it doesn't have to be this way.

Pure ideology, and a failed one at that.

We only have to look back to the late 80s and the 90s. I've been there, I've no doubt others here have too.