Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[Worried2Death]

Agree but when we are promoting a ‘road to zero’ it sort of implies we are going to dramatically reduce deaths doesn't it?

Just a stupid marketing name though isn’t it? No one took it literally

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Just a stupid marketing name though isn’t it? No one took it literally

The old over promise and underdeliver… that always ends well

 

[marv.]

I'm giving him air in the context of the government that's in power, and in a wider context of having the conspiracy madness at the seat of power in our country.

I'm surprised that more people here aren't concerned about that, amongst other behaviour that left or right is downright antidemocratic by this current government.

they’re in power, so we will see results or they’ll be accountable. (unlikely)
the last lot aren’t though so they can say anything the like and get away with it.

hipkins in particular seems to have +80000 backbone now compared to when he was PM because anything he says means bupkis

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Agree. But for a road to zero you stop the accidents happening in the first place don’t you? Address the root causes?

It’s never going to zero if we just make the accidents not quite as bad.

99% of our road safety is about speed but 95% of causes isn’t speed.

So NZ was stupid enough to put a figure on the reduced toll. Australian politicians are too slippery. But to prove the point, ask your local MP how much they’d spend to achieve zero. 100million? 10Billion? 1trillion? And you’ll realise there is no limit to how much they’ll spend to not achieve their goals.

 

[Noitall]

I'm giving him air in the context of the government that's in power, and in a wider context of having the conspiracy madness at the seat of power in our country.

I'm surprised that more people here aren't concerned about that, amongst other behaviour that left or right is downright antidemocratic by this current government.

Interesting watch on q and a this morning and simeon brown not ruling out councils being forced to amalgamate regarding water reform in place of three waters. It was put to him that Carterton mayor Ron mark stating they are sorted water wise until 2040 but a neighbouring region is struggling to which under the proposed amalgamations that successful and well stocked parts will be lumbered with poor performing areas as would be the case for Carterton. Think rates are going to absolutely skyrocket

 

[Worried2Death]

they’re in power, so we will see results or they’ll be accountable.
the last lot aren’t so they can say anything the like and get away with it.

hipkins in particular seems to have +80000 backbone now compared to when he was PM because anything he says means bupkis

True about the Hipster but Winnie also seems to be able to say any inflammatory bullshit he wants to his crowd without consequence, that's a bit of a worry too as our deputy PM. When did Godwin's law become an acceptable part of our govt?

 

[marv.]

True about the Hipster but Winnie also seems to be able to say any inflammatory bullshit he wants to his crowd without consequence, that's a bit of a worry too as our deputy PM.

to his crowd yeah! not to the news or here though.
the news seem to ride him hard.

rightly so too. he and some of the folk that love him are fucking dangerous man.

 

[Noitall]

True about the Hipster but Winnie also seems to be able to say any inflammatory bullshit he wants to his crowd without consequence, that's a bit of a worry too as our deputy PM.

Would love to see him chumbawumbaed in court the smarmy prick but it’s just another bill that us the taxpayer would be picking up for him with all his courtroom endeavours. Fascinating thing politics, he now forms a government with national and his dealings with them before this were us paying for his gripe with Anne tolley and paula Bennett for telling us all he’s ripping the system off

 

[marv.]

Would love to see him chumbawumbaed in court the smarmy prick

this rules hahahaha

 

[MaybeTop8]

Interesting watch on q and a this morning and simeon brown not ruling out councils being forced to amalgamate regarding water reform in place of three waters. It was put to him that Carterton mayor Ron mark stating they are sorted water wise until 2040 but a neighbouring region is struggling to which under the proposed amalgamations that successful and well stocked parts will be lumbered with poor performing areas as would be the case for Carterton. Think rates are going to absolutely skyrocket

Privatisation coming. There's a narrative being sown, in my opinion of course, but it's following a well trod pattern. Crisis, manufactured or otherwise, instant solution in PPPs or outright asset sales.

We've been here before and the results have only gone one way, and that's the wealth going upwards.

 

[MaybeTop8]

True about the Hipster but Winnie also seems to be able to say any inflammatory bullshit he wants to his crowd without consequence, that's a bit of a worry too as our deputy PM. When did Godwin's law become an acceptable part of our govt?

Exactly.

 

[John Nick]

Interesting watch on q and a this morning and simeon brown not ruling out councils being forced to amalgamate regarding water reform in place of three waters. It was put to him that Carterton mayor Ron mark stating they are sorted water wise until 2040 but a neighbouring region is struggling to which under the proposed amalgamations that successful and well stocked parts will be lumbered with poor performing areas as would be the case for Carterton. Think rates are going to absolutely skyrocket

I wonder what areas would be happy to work with Tauranga or Invercargill or Wellington or many other councils that are struggling already

 

[Noitall]

I wonder what areas would be happy to work with Tauranga or Invercargill or Wellington or many other councils that are struggling already

That was crux of it, places are going to stuck with a lemon

 

[Worried2Death]

Privatisation coming. There's a narrative being sown, in my opinion of course, but it's following a well trod pattern. Crisis, manufactured or otherwise, instant solution in PPPs or outright asset sales.

We've been here before and the results have only gone one way, and that's the wealth going upwards.

Come to a league forum, end up pondering the official cash rate's effect on inflation and getting worried sick about the neoliberal elite plotting against us. Thank Christ the Manly game's started.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Come to a league forum, end up pondering the official cash rate's effect on inflation and getting worried sick about the neoliberal elite plotting against us. Thank Christ the Manly game's started.

Manly’s treating the Eels like road kill…

Stop running so fast Manly!

 

[Noitall]

Manly’s treating the Eels like road kill…

Like the national party treating the NZ public

 

[Worried2Death]

Manly’s treating the Eels like road kill…

Love to see it, I've got a new respect for the bird bros on the cross forums, they seem like a decent bunch of fellers.

 

[John Nick]

Manly’s treating the Eels like road kill…

Got an all up.
Manly and Storm. Both $3-80.
Neither are the favorites surprisingly to me

 

[Noitall]

Got an all up.
Manly and Storm. Both $3-80.
Neither are the favorites surprisingly to me

Manly looking the goods. Still got matt lodge to come back too

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Like the national party treating the NZ public

You know doing CPR breaks ribs in most cases?

Labour left the country economy and socially on life support