He's arguing with himself now, it's like talking to a brick wall
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Wiz: it's simple, just double our productivity
Wiz: you're right there Wiz, why didn't I think of that, just double our GDP
Wiz: try telling Top 8, it's like talking to a brick wall
Enough wealth is what every individual should require to live a life of normalcy.
Unfortunately, adding in other factors like
Greed etc ensures that the world we live in today is far from just and equitable. On the other side, I believe the lack of individual and parental responsibility has had a large effect on where we are today.
Buried in a lame herald premium article - the hard right billionaire Jim Grenon moves a step closer to full takeover of nzme, threatening fair journalism in nz.
Jesus Wept, do you think Simon Wilson will be the first to go or maybe Richard Prebble?
I'm sure Jim will hire you in a heartbeat
He may do but to be fair I may have a slight conservative stance so maybe wouldn't fit his narrative as despite all the bravado, there are no right wing newspapers in this country. If there was, it would probably have a subscription rate to die for.
I confess to reading the Herald every day and I certainly don't find its political reporting or Opinion puff piece writers to be right leaning. Excepting maybe Prebble and Cotterill. I also have a sub for the Post which seems to me to be the other way round.
Finding news journalism as opposed to opinion writers is becoming a difficult task these days.
Disclaimer again. I do have some NZME shares but only so I can go to the AGM and catch up with The Hos at the after match.
Rick! No right wing newspapers? Jaysis, THE HERALD!!!!! OWNED BY NZME!!!!
Fair enough you don't see it as right wing, and that might be more where you locate yourself in terms of echo chambers etc - that's not meant as an insult btw, I suffer from that myself.
No wonder I seem like a commie to some of you
Might be the same reasoning that someone like Inruin sees themselves as centre when they absolutely aren't....which heads circularly back around to the fact that whatever is debate these days has seen the centre "shift" so far right that some think Labour are still left. And that looking out for one another and caring about society is communism etc etc.
This is however a slippery slope in these here forums, one that I will never tread on (disclaimer for those not able to see sarcasm in type: I am of course being facetious)
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Herald is the most central in NZ.Rick! No right wing newspapers? Jaysis, THE HERALD!!!!! OWNED BY NZME!!!!
Fair enough you don't see it as right wing, and that might be more where you locate yourself in terms of echo chambers etc - that's not meant as an insult btw, I suffer from that myself.
No wonder I seem like a commie to some of you
Might be the same reasoning that someone like Inruin sees themselves as centre when they absolutely aren't....which heads circularly back around to the fact that whatever is debate these days has seen the centre "shift" so far right that some think Labour are still left. And that looking out for one another and caring about society is communism etc etc.
This is however a slippery slope in these here forums, one that I will never tread on (disclaimer for those not able to see sarcasm in type: I am of course being facetious)
Curia market research:
NZ Herald rated as NZ's most politically balanced media outlet - theFacts.
Deaths in New Zealand by Cause, 2019
thefacts.nz
Well, let's see. The Facts - far right site that's featured on all of the great channels like the PlatformHerald is the most central in NZ.
Curia market research:
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NZ Herald rated as NZ's most politically balanced media outlet - theFacts.
Deaths in New Zealand by Cause, 2019
Curia
That would be David Farrar. Who is he you might ask? (Well you won't, but others might)
He runs kiwiblog, a very right leaning blog quite full of red meat that gets the talkback going.
He was VERY active in Dirty Politics, VERY good mates with Key, Collins and other vile folk - https://dirtypoliticsnz.com/the-cast/
He is a co founder of the taxpayers union
He deceives - something you'll be proud of Wiz
In other words, he's very, very right and part of the hit squads on the right.
Proof of David Farrar’s deception: my own experience of Dirty Politics
In the lead up to the election the Minister of Corrections Anne Tolley launched a gang policy. In order to justify the government’s approach she used gang figures that overstated the gang problem....
www.jarrodgilbert.com
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Seems about where I see them.Well, let's see. The Facts - far right site that's featured on all of the great channels like the Platform
Curia
That would be David Farrar. Who is he you might ask? (Well you won't, but others might)
He runs kiwiblog, a very right leaning blog quite full of red meat that gets the talkback going.
He was VERY active in Dirty Politics, VERY good mates with Key, Collins and other vile folk - https://dirtypoliticsnz.com/the-cast/
He is a co founder of the taxpayers union
He deceives - something you'll be proud of Wiz
In other words, he's very, very right and part of the hit squads on the right.
Proof of David Farrar’s deception: my own experience of Dirty Politics
In the lead up to the election the Minister of Corrections Anne Tolley launched a gang policy. In order to justify the government’s approach she used gang figures that overstated the gang problem....www.jarrodgilbert.com
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Your welcome to post another analysis of the media… but Curia is a major and credible polling company.
In fact, here’s a Curia poll used by far left Stuff to prove its credibility:
Stuff
www.stuff.co.nz
I agree with the rankings, though I would question the intelligence of some of those surveyed who considered The Platform and ZB as far left, and The Spinoff as far rightHerald is the most central in NZ.
Curia market research:
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NZ Herald rated as NZ's most politically balanced media outlet - theFacts.
Deaths in New Zealand by Cause, 2019
Well yes, quite
ZB far left, that was probably Frank
I'm picking wiz did the graphic himself
Surely you've heard the the saying "I been down so goddam long that it looks like up to me"
Same principle that that says Go far enough Right/Left and you'll end up Left/Right
3yr old poll???Herald is the most central in NZ.
Curia market research:
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NZ Herald rated as NZ's most politically balanced media outlet - theFacts.
Deaths in New Zealand by Cause, 2019
If we took a poll on this forum and asked would the Wahs finish Top 4, 5-8th, 9-12th, 12th+ in 2026 do you really think that the outcome would accurately reflect where they will finish
Kris Kristofferson wasn't it grandad?
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Which of those media organisations has actively changed their target market?
