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[miket12]

Unemployment, which some economists were saying was supposed to fall, has actually risen. And, no, it's not because of those who finished school and training being added to the number as they use a "seasonally adjusted" calculation to take care of the additional numbers at the end of each year.

How many jobs are still being held by those who should retire?

Is it time to stop the "double dipping" by receiving NZ Super and a salary? If you're still in work, you get a reduced NZ Super for how much you earn until you don't get any NZ Super once you reach a certain income level? Is it time to reintroduce means testing so those with a certain net worth and above don't receive it?

Should māori and Pacifica be able to retire earlier and start receiving Super earlier because of a lower life expectancy?

Or the opposite? Start rising the age of entitlement? Personally, I'm opposed to that as, if your back is buggered from manual work, why make people work even longer?

 

[MaybeTop8]

Well I copied and pasted the wording in when I posted. Obviously it’s changed

Well, we don't

Unemployment, which some economists were saying was supposed to fall, has actually risen. And, no, it's not because of those who finished school and training being added to the number as they use a "seasonally adjusted" calculation to take care of the additional numbers at the end of each year.

How many jobs are still being held by those who should retire?

Is it time to stop the "double dipping" by receiving NZ Super and a salary? If you're still in work, you get a reduced NZ Super for how much you earn until you don't get any NZ Super once you reach a certain income level? Is it time to reintroduce means testing so those with a certain net worth and above don't receive it?

Should Maori and Pacifica be able to retire earlier and start receiving Super earlier because of a lower life expectancy?

Or the opposite? Start rising the age of entitlement? Personally, I'm opposed to that as, if your back is buggered from manual work, why make people work even longer?

More importantly this government is responsible.

 

[defensivebomb]

Unemployment, which some economists were saying was supposed to fall, has actually risen. And, no, it's not because of those who finished school and training being added to the number as they use a "seasonally adjusted" calculation to take care of the additional numbers at the end of each year.

How many jobs are still being held by those who should retire?

Is it time to stop the "double dipping" by receiving NZ Super and a salary? If you're still in work, you get a reduced NZ Super for how much you earn until you don't get any NZ Super once you reach a certain income level? Is it time to reintroduce means testing so those with a certain net worth and above don't receive it?

Should Maori and Pacifica be able to retire earlier and start receiving Super earlier because of a lower life expectancy?

Or the opposite? Start rising the age of entitlement? Personally, I'm opposed to that as, if your back is buggered from manual work, why make people work even longer?

1. Increase the age in line with the changes in life expectancy since 1992 (when 65 was introduced)
2. Life expectancy provides sufficient motivation for people to take personal responsibility for health
3. Make Kiwisaver compulsory from the date you start earning (@MaybeTop8 posted a link a few weeks ago of an NZ super expert, which said Kiwisaver needs to be compulsory (like Australia) to be effective. I agree with this)
4. Increase Kiwisaver employer contributions to 10%, and tax-free
5. My preference is just to leave Super as universal, but, if it is to be means tested, then:
   1. There should be an opt-out of being taxed to pay Super contributions once Kiwisaver balances surpass the threshold or
   2. Or at least a rebate of taxes / tax credit at retirement for people do not qualify for Super

 

[Inruin]

1. Make Kiwisaver compulsory from the date you start earning (@MaybeTop8 posted a link a few weeks ago of an NZ super expert, which said Kiwisaver needs to be compulsory (like Australia) to be effective. I agree with this)

Currently Employers and government contributions don't start until the employee is 18yo. I don't understand the reason for this and glad to see its changing from April this year to include them. The earlier they start saving and getting contributions the better

 

[MaybeTop8]

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[Noitall]

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Interesting how Seymour wants to make sure our allies have access to our minerals

 

[MaybeTop8]

This is appalling.

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

 

[defensivebomb]

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Here's the RBNZ's estimate, from August 2023, of where the RBNZ was forecasting unemployment to get to:



A 10-year unemployment high.

It's not a mystery for the ages. It has been well-signalled that we'd be here

 

[MaybeTop8]

Here's the RBNZ's estimate, from August 2023, of where the RBNZ was forecasting unemployment to get to:

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A 10-year unemployment high.

It's not a mystery for the ages. It has been well-signalled that we'd be here

Well signaled by the destructive policies of the current government

 

[defensivebomb]

Well signaled by the destructive policies of the current government

Well signalled by an independent RBNZ, during the previous government, and before the outcome of 2023 election

 

[MaybeTop8]

Well signalled by an independent RBNZ, during the previous government, and before the outcome of 2023 election

And well signaled by the current government that they would get us back on track. Which they haven't, they've set nz way back

 

[MaybeTop8]

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2602/S00007/on-the-secret-pact-on-rare-earth-minerals-and-the-india-fta.htm

 

[MaybeTop8]

 

[miket12]

This is appalling.

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

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How about when the government ignored the report from the NZ Geotechnical Society after weather events in Tairāwhiti in 2018? Or when they ignored the University of Auckland report in November 2021 which called for mitigation again slips? Or when they ignored the Hawkes Bay Regional Council report in 2020 on mitigating climate change? Or when they ignored the GDC Tairāwhiti report of 2019?

Warning .... don't check the dates as those were all ignored by the previous government. Oh, and Jo Luxton, who is now so concerned that the current government isn't doing enough to mediate against slips by ignoring the latest report, was a member of the previous government that ignored four others.

Just imagine how less the impact would have been if the previous government, in a much better fiscal position to do something about it, hadn't ignored those reports?

The simple fact is that landslides.nz have recorded over 500,000,000 landslides on their database. Since 2000, over 40,000 landslides have been recorded in the Gisborne area. What do you think the cost would be to mitigate against just those, let alone think about the rest nationwide?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Here's the RBNZ's estimate, from August 2023, of where the RBNZ was forecasting unemployment to get to:

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A 10-year unemployment high.

It's not a mystery for the ages. It has been well-signalled that we'd be here

Yes everyone with brains knows this was all predicted. Only the daily crisis posters think it’s anything.

Of more concern, when you do stupid things in the economy during the good times, companies put up with it as the good times paper over the cracks. This now is exactly when over-regulation, rigid labour costs, and bad incentives get stress-tested.

Masses of businesses going under while people can’t afford to buy goods. And unemployment high. stagnation instead of recovery Because of structurally excessive costs.

How’s those massive unjustified (not based on productivity gains) minimum wages increases well above inflation helping NZ, businesses and employees now?

Personally I would prefer people earned less and their costs were less so they were better off through lower structural costs with more employment opportunities due to reasonable labour.

Minimum wage policy is really a choice between: protecting wages for those who stay employed, or maximising employment opportunities overall. In downturns, pushing hard on the first usually hurts the second. Politicians love the optics of wage increases because the downside is delayed, dispersed, and easy to blame on “greedy businesses” later.

 

[MaybeTop8]

How about when the government ignored the report from the NZ Geotechnical Society after weather events in Tairāwhiti in 2018? Or when they ignored the University of Auckland report in November 2021 which called for mitigation again slips? Or when they ignored the Hawkes Bay Regional Council report in 2020 on mitigating climate change? Or when they ignored the GDC Tairāwhiti report of 2019?

Warning .... don't check the dates as those were all ignored by the previous government. Oh, and Jo Luxton, who is now so concerned that the current government isn't doing enough to mediate against slips by ignoring the latest report, was a member of the previous government that ignored four others.

Just imagine how less the impact would have been if the previous government, in a much better fiscal position to do something about it, hadn't ignored those reports?

The simple fact is that landslides.nz have recorded over 500,000,000 landslides on their database. Since 2000, over 40,000 landslides have been recorded in the Gisborne area. What do you think the cost would be to mitigate against just those, let alone think about the rest nationwide?

So do nothing? That's the answer?

 

[miket12]

So do nothing? That's the answer?

Worked for the previous government, who had far more money, on four occasions.

No, the idea is that the government should mitigate the worst areas owned by central government, local authorities those owned by them and private landowners the areas owned by them.... not expect any government to bail out local authorities and private landowners.

It's called being responsible for what you own.... and the damage you caused as a farmer stripping of the vegetation/trees in the first place.

 

[Cces]

Lucky enough to be in Waitangi today & currently at the forum listening to the speeches at the upper marae. 3 politicians deep but yet to hear from Luxon. Interested to see if he has the stones to speak &, if so, to witness what reception he receives

 

[Cces]

Looks like he left his nuts at home. Didn't even partake in the waiata

 

[Cces]

Here he is