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[MaybeTop8]

The New Zealand police appear to be an insular inward looking corrupt organisation.

This is truly appalling, but only one of many recent and not so recent scandals that go right to the heart of our police force. Institutionalised to the core.

And Mitchell? Covering his arse more likely. Speculation on my part of course, but who wouldn't. How much do all of our governments know?

Mark Mitchell says 36 emails about Jevon McSkimming were kept from him by police

Mark Mitchell says a protocol was put in place by the Commissioner's office so the Minister didn't see the emails.

www.rnz.co.nz

Police bosses ignored sex complaints against top cop, charged woman for 'revenge' emails instead

Suppressions fall away to reveal the full story of the downfall of a deputy police boss.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Revealed: The senior cops who exposed the Jevon McSkimming police 'cover-up'

The watchdog that found serious misconduct at the highest levels of police also commended the work of several police staff who stood up. Here's who they are.

www.rnz.co.nz

And then there's this:

Over 100 police officers under investigation after breath tests falsified are still working

Police are not ruling out criminal investigations after 30,000 alcohol breath tests were falsified.

www.rnz.co.nz

How many people have been falsely strung up due to this endemic corruption?

Matthew Ridge for one -
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YymeVEM1aM


Oh and utterly patriarchal

The Post

www.thepost.co.nz

 

[MaybeTop8]

More corruption





View: https://bsky.app/profile/ben.gracewood.nz/post/3m5eoquqfck2h

 

[Bay39er]

Wow, the people at the top of the police are really letting down the force.

Mind you when the people that appointed this mob were soft on crime, cuddling up to gangs, policed by consent and even our justice minister drunk drove then ran away from the police, what do we expect!

Glad National is sorting it all out. I have a lot of faith in Mark Mitchell.

Just to pour some cold water on your erection I remind you that Coster was known to be so incompetent that your favourite political party saw fit to appoint him as head of another government department when he left the Police!

Explain that to us

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Just to pour some cold water on your erection I remind you that Coster was known to be so incompetent that your favourite political party saw fit to appoint him as head of another government department when he left the Police!

Explain that to us

Yeah but who appointed McSkimming?

 

[defensivebomb]

With a name like McSkimming, you just know he’s dodgy

That should have been the first giveaway

 

[defensivebomb]

Just to pour some cold water on your erection

beautifully put

I am a big fan of wordsmiths, regardless of the opinion

 

[Noitall]

With a name like McSkimming, you just know he’s dodgy

That should have been the first giveaway

Sounds like someone who was ripping McDonalds off. He was McSkimming off the top

 

[Rick O’Shay]

Just to pour some cold water on your erection I remind you that Coster was known to be so incompetent that your favourite political party saw fit to appoint him as head of another government department when he left the Police!

Explain that to us

Can't confirm but was he on a reasonable contract with NZP and instead of paying him out, the Public Service shifted him to another role until his expiry date. Or did the PS know what was coming up with McSkimming and needed to have a handy scapegoat if necessary.
Tinfoil hat time but interesting to say the least

 

[Bay39er]

Can't confirm but was he on a reasonable contract with NZP and instead of paying him out, the Public Service shifted him to another role until his expiry date. Or did the PS know what was coming up with McSkimming and needed to have a handy scapegoat if necessary.
Tinfoil hat time but interesting to say the least

His term with the Police was due to expire in April 2025 but he went on 10 November 2024 to start the new role the next day.

If I recall correctly it was a 5 year appointment so I can’t see it being shifted to avoid a pay out

Ironically he was placed on leave exactly 1 year after starting the role

 

[juju]

Can't confirm but was he on a reasonable contract with NZP and instead of paying him out, the Public Service shifted him to another role until his expiry date. Or did the PS know what was coming up with McSkimming and needed to have a handy scapegoat if necessary.
Tinfoil hat time but interesting to sa

No, Nicola Willis headhunted him to be chief executive of the social investment agency. That’s not a sideways move - thats a promotion.

 

[Bay39er]

Yeah but who appointed McSkimming?

https://www.publicservice.govt.nz/assets/DirectoryFile/Appointments-Deputy-Commissioners-of-Police.pdf

This answers your question

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

How’s this for an opinion (not mine):

The government and RBNZ effectively acted like loan sharks, encouraging New Zealanders to take on as much debt as possible through ultra-low interest rates and excessive liquidity during COVID. Then, once households were maxed out, they hiked rates, turning a large portion of the population into debt slaves to Australian banks. The result: no disposable income and collapsing industries like hospitality. Meanwhile, those same Australian banks are reaping record profits.

It’s time for the RBNZ to do the right thing: slash interest rates and allow the NZD to devalue, reducing the real burden of debt that’s denominated in NZD but owned by Australian banks, while strictly enforcing debt-to-income and debt-to-equity rules to prevent another bubble.


The last 5 years economic shambles has really been masterminded by the incompetence of the ‘independent’ Reserve Bank rather than either political party and we’re all paying for it.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Just to pour some cold water on your erection I remind you that Coster was known to be so incompetent that your favourite political party saw fit to appoint him as head of another government department when he left the Police!

Explain that to us

I’m similar to Ricks thoughts.

The champion of progressive policing had to be moved sideways for a politically poor fit by a harder line govt, rather than anything to do with the current allegations.

Maybe the current issues in police are the end result of a soft approach to leadership mirroring the soft approach to crime, enabling more crime?

 

[miket12]

Disappointed with the new fire arms rules.... I was looking forward to being able to post about the coalition being under the influence of the gun lobby by changing the auto gun rules.... and they didn't!!!

 

[Bay39er]

I’m similar to Ricks thoughts.

The champion of progressive policing had to be moved sideways for a politically poor fit by a harder line govt, rather than anything to do with the current allegations.

Maybe the current issues in police are the end result of a soft approach to leadership mirroring the soft approach to crime, enabling more crime?

Makes no sense!

Far cheaper to pay out 5 months of the Police contract instead of paying a 5 year contract.

Also I invite you to go back and review both what the PM and the MOP said about Coster once he & the MOP had agreed on their new policing policy

 

[Noitall]

Disappointed with the new fire arms rules.... I was looking forward to being able to post about the coalition being under the influence of the gun lobby by changing the auto gun rules.... and they didn't!!!

Thank goodness there’s an agree to disagree policy between them with McKee keen to see semi automatic weapons and coalition partners not

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Makes no sense!

Far cheaper to pay out 5 months of the Police contract instead of paying a 5 year contract.

Also I invite you to go back and review both what the PM and the MOP said about Coster once he & the MOP had agreed on their new policing policy

Did the right people know about these allegations (and the seriousness of them) 5 months ago?

 

[Bay39er]

Did the right people know about these allegations (and the seriousness of them) 5 months ago?

Probably not but your earlier post was hitting on the administration that appointed “this mob” as if they had knowledge

 

[Rick O’Shay]

Never mind who was in charge for whatever appointment. These guys and girls have been around long enough to be through successive governments.
This is about individuals not ministers or appointments.
Really disturbing that these amoral people are at the head of what should be a totally neutral and law focused organisation, there to protect and serve.
A lot of heads to roll and then trust to be regathered from the public

 

[MrFrankWhite]

what should be a totally neutral and law focused organisation, there to protect and serve.

Not sure thats possible. Institutions like Police are thousands of years old in concept, and in NZs case 139 years in practice. These things are like living organisms with a large part of their focus being survival. To lead these organisations you have to be a part of them and represent its values for so long you become it.