Japans bureaucracy is probably even worse. They still use fax machines.I don't pay taxes in NZ
Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics
- Thread starter wizard of Tauranga
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You think you're joking, but that is 100% accurate.
I just don't really understand how you guys think hovernment us meant to be some business generating profits...
Like in all seriousness I would not give 2 fucks if our national debt was 2bn if we all had a better standard of living.
These fucking assholes are spending our money on shit that doesn't benefit us.
Wars
Austerity
Bullshit
Like in all seriousness I would not give 2 fucks if our national debt was 2bn if we all had a better standard of living.
These fucking assholes are spending our money on shit that doesn't benefit us.
Wars
Austerity
Bullshit
miket12
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You've pretty much summarised every NZ government since (but not including) Cullen was Finance Minister. To me, it's not who has done the best job, but who didn't stuff it up as much as the others.
Sledge
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More gas lighting from you, you do that a lot when proven wrong. Must have learnt it from the school of Ardern play book.
Noitall
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Though it must be considered that some have had greater challenges than others in their terms for whatever reasons
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If your pointing to poor Ardern and Covid - the idiots did a major restructuring of the health system in the middle of a pandemic
Wah wah wah wah wahcwah
Noitall
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No it’s you jumping straight to that, like others still seem triggered by her. Interestingly she still registers as a preferred pm in polls though low now after all this time. No there were things like the Christchurch earthquake and earthquakes that were big and many other factors but in reality, covid changed the world. There are posters like yourself that I can’t take seriously on this thread because of your inability to call anything this current government is dishing up and the pathetic leadership out, as much as Ardern triggers you, that was leadership. An ability to call out what any normal thinks like blowing up a girls school in Iran is more than we’re currently gettingIf your pointing to poor Ardern and Covid - the idiots did a major restructuring of the health system in the middle of a pandemic
Your idiots wouldn't have closed the borders and would have led to tens of thousands of deathsIf your pointing to poor Ardern and Covid - the idiots did a major restructuring of the health system in the middle of a pandemic
Noitall
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Bridges? Muller? Collins?
The Conservatives were in charge during Covid in Aus
Some of the things they did were more extreme than Nz Labour during Covid
The rules and regs by State and Fed labour and conservative gov in hindsight were ridiculous and absurd and mega expensive
No country has a play book to manage COVID
Thus they all flew blind
Whether the gov was centre right or centre left didn’t matter.
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Except Covid what was Ardern’s greatest policies that changed NZ?
Luxons a different leader, more quietly working away on long lasting changes rather than photo opportunity hunting. Style vs substance and to me the substance of Luxons policy work will change NZ for the better more than anything Ardern did.
This govt under Luxon has done more for health, education, law and order and roading/ transport than Labour. I will say there have been failings - economy hasn’t met expectations, more debt, etc but overall this coalition has slowly changed NZ for the better and dragged us out of the dismal hole we were left in.
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To be fair to politicians, our political cycle means you have to push an agenda through in 3 years. When a pandemic comes along it’s hard to delay all your election promises and trim back to just getting over Covid.
Most of the changes pushed through were doomed to fail due to the pressures of COVID and the policy bonfire Chippy bought in summed up that the govt tried to do to much.
Added to that the changes added significant pressure on a frail workforce (eg restructuring the health system, trying to reset immigration, etc). This bugs me more than actual covid decisions.
Hopefully there is learnings abound delaying election promises for the greater good.
Most of the changes pushed through were doomed to fail due to the pressures of COVID and the policy bonfire Chippy bought in summed up that the govt tried to do to much.
Added to that the changes added significant pressure on a frail workforce (eg restructuring the health system, trying to reset immigration, etc). This bugs me more than actual covid decisions.
Hopefully there is learnings abound delaying election promises for the greater good.
Noitall
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That might be your take but it’s not mine and largely not the countries. Hipkins is polling higher than Luxon and Peters is only 3% of equalling him for preferred pm. His leadership is dismal and things like this mineral deal for America alone is going to harm him when there are apparently military implications. He needn’t sign any NZer for anything he’s not prepared to send his son to
