Social 🍎 A Weighty Issue

[Worried2Death]

Because at the heart of it, its private family vs the state. capitalism vs communism, left vs right, etc etc.

I reckon Conservative Christian morality v LGBQT+ rights, most of the friction is imported from the states.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

I reckon Conservative Christian morality v LQBQT+ rights, most of the friction is imported from the states.

That is the family versus the state. Hard to have a nuclear family if no one can procreate.

 

[Worried2Death]

Because that’s the culture dominating discussion these days. The woke culture that want to be heard.

ok I’m listening…. Now what ?

Now the pendulum swings back to the middle and some other marginalised minority agitates for rights, with the inevitable backlash.
Is the patriarchy being swept away and taking Christian dogmas with it? Maybe that's what's happening.

 

[Worried2Death]

That is the family versus the state. Hard to have a nuclear family if no one can procreate.

The nuclear family is still the state sanctioned unit though isn't it? Non-procreating sexualities are gradually being incorporated into the state apparatus as they gain rights.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Now the pendulum swings back to the middle and some other marginalised minority agitates for rights, with the inevitable backlash.
Is the patriarchy being swept away amd taking Christian dogmas with it? Maybe that's what's happening.

Both of those things came from somewhere though, most likely biology.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

The nuclear family is still the state sanctioned unit though isn't it? Non-procreating sexualities are gradually being incorporated into the state apparatus as they gain rights.

no. The state is the surrogate family. This quite a core concept in the struggle between right and left.

Is the welfare state replacing the family?

THE United States, like the other industrialized countries, is experiencing quite dramatic changes in the structure of its families and households. We see low fertility rates, low marriage rates, increasing numbers of one-person households, smaller h...

nationalaffairs.com

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Communism and the Family by Alexandra Kollontai

www.marxists.org

 

[MrFrankWhite]

The family and the state: a public choice perspective - The Review of Austrian Economics

The family is an institution within which exchange takes place. The state depends on the productivity of families for its current and future revenues. Yet, work on family policy often ignores the role of local knowledge, incentives, and special interests, while families themselves are often...

link.springer.com

 

[Worried2Death]

Both of those things came from somewhere though, most likely biology.

Biology doesn't change but societies adapt to different perceptions and discoveries about biological outliers

 

[Worried2Death]

Communism and the Family by Alexandra Kollontai

www.marxists.org

Depends whether communism is actually being implemented by stealth or if that's propaganda, do you see the workers seizing the means of production from the mega wealthy elites anytime soon? I don't buy it, the opposite is happening.

 

[tyrael]

In Darwin’s theory of evolution only the strong survive

He never said that.

He said

"those who survive are the ones who most accurately perceive their environment and successfully adapt to it."

Darwin is always misquoted because lots of people write about him and then paraphrase.

He uses the word fittest and some authors use strongest instead. But fittest doesn't meant strongest. It doesn't mean endurance but more fit for purpose.

 

[Worried2Death]

He never said that.

He said

"those who survive are the ones who most accurately perceive their environment and successfully adapt to it."

Darwin is always misquoted because lots of people write about him and then paraphrase.

He uses the word fittest and some authors use strongest instead. But fittest doesn't meant strongest. It doesn't mean endurance but more fit for purpose.

Important distinction in evolutionary theory, species with superior intelligent adaption often survive the extinction of their apex predators, like we did. Now our biggest threat is our own species.

 

[Beastmode]

He never said that.

He said

"those who survive are the ones who most accurately perceive their environment and successfully adapt to it."

Darwin is always misquoted because lots of people write about him and then paraphrase.

He uses the word fittest and some authors use strongest instead. But fittest doesn't meant strongest. It doesn't mean endurance but more fit for purpose.

Yes, he never said it but it’s implied

How you define strong I am sure is open to countless debate

Again pen vs sword

 

[Worried2Death]

Yes, he never said it but it’s implied

How you define strong I am sure is open to countless debate

Again pen vs sword

Viruses and cockroaches, they'll be here long after we're extinct so they win evolution. Are they sword swingers or pen pushers

 

[Beastmode]

Viruses and cockroaches, they'll be here long after we're extinct so they win evolution. Are they sword swingers or pen pushers

Survived but not evolved

 

[Worried2Death]

Survived but not evolved

Insects aren't evolved? They're the most prolific, they're beating us!

 

[Beastmode]

Insects aren't evolved? They're the most prolific, they're beating us!

From Day 1 they had it made

 

[Worried2Death]

From Day 1 they had it made

The deck was stacked against us from the start, thanks God.

Or are you suggesting they didn't evolve from cell clusters like us

 

[Worried2Death]

These are weighty issues alright. Speaking of the actual thread subject, I had covid 2 months ago and haven't had sense of taste or appetite since, lost about 10 kg and three belt notches, I'm starting to look like David Byrne from Talking Heads in my giant suit.

 

[Beastmode]

The deck was stacked against us from the start, thanks God.

Or are you suggesting they didn't evolve from single cell clusters like us

They probably have evolved and there’s probably many different species …

But nothing a good inspect spry couldn’t fix!!!