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It was Ardern who set the election date at the start of the year when she resigned.
Not sure if Hipkins could have changed after the fact. Politics does have some weird rules.
Because the PM sets the Election date….. they don’t have to ask the other parties if the date is suitable.
What is this sorcery that she knew the voters would vote Winston into a 3 party coalition and that would drag negotiations out threatening luxon going to apec?
John Nick
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You missed my point.
I haven't heard Luxon complaining about the date .Even after the fact.
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Because a government can’t be formed until the writ is prepared and that can’t be done until the recounts are completed.
Just pointing out that she set the date when she announced her resignation. The election date was known since the start of the year.
APEC dates would have been known as well as any other engagements. I doubt there was any plans on the fall out from the election you have to have it at some point and there will always be something on.
John Nick
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On the news this morning Luxon said he would still like to attend Apec.
Just fascinated to hear the date was set to threaten apec attendance for luxon.
I’ve been hearing she was paid $23 million by pharmac to convince everybody to get the vaccine.
TBH, it always seems to take far too long for a government to be formed. The only time most politicians care about what we think is once every three years….. then they hide behind closed doors and look at what things they were voted on they can ignore to form a government. Personally, I like STV far more than MMP but the MMP lobbyists ran the better campaign.On the news this morning Luxon said he would still like to attend
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The common factor is Winston Peters.
If he wasn’t part of the negotiations we would have had a government weeks ago.
John Nick
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The 2017 election took a while to get formed as like other years we had NZ First playing the two main parties off against each other.
This time although NZ First isn't the main party needed they still seem to be able to ring these out.
I've been saying for a while now the way we do MMP with the smaller parties putting down bottom lines on major things is a bit backwards. You go into negotiations with 40% and get dictated to by people with 5-15%.
Listening to the radio on the way home today the sticking points seem to be the tax cuts and where the money will come from. Looks like from a climate change fund. Sounds like NZ First want to use it for regional policies. The brief bit I heard that may have been for climate related items. The Provincial Growth Fund had some merit in investing around the country. The execution wasn't the best. After the year we have had with damage from cyclones and flooding that money would be better off spent fixing damaged roads, bridges or infrastructure that could prevent damage from flooding instead of tax cuts.
This time although NZ First isn't the main party needed they still seem to be able to ring these out.
I've been saying for a while now the way we do MMP with the smaller parties putting down bottom lines on major things is a bit backwards. You go into negotiations with 40% and get dictated to by people with 5-15%.
Listening to the radio on the way home today the sticking points seem to be the tax cuts and where the money will come from. Looks like from a climate change fund. Sounds like NZ First want to use it for regional policies. The brief bit I heard that may have been for climate related items. The Provincial Growth Fund had some merit in investing around the country. The execution wasn't the best. After the year we have had with damage from cyclones and flooding that money would be better off spent fixing damaged roads, bridges or infrastructure that could prevent damage from flooding instead of tax cuts.
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On straight policy I’m probably most aligned with NZ First.Exactly
Seems to take delight in the spotlight being on him
Never voted for them though because of the cult of Winston Peters.
Winston isn't interested in the baubles of office. Remember he told us.
He reminds me of the Warriors official in the 95/96 era that was complaining about Ian Robson. Call the radio to say "You wouldn't guess what he's wasting money on now, a plan to Waiheke Island". When asked "Where are you" responds "Getting off the helicopter".
He's always said he's not interested in the baubles of office and then gets the nice Ministry of Foreign Affairs or something else which gives him a lot of travel or other benefits. The sacrifices that makes for us.
John Nick
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At the same time saying "I would like to get home. I have better things to do ".Winston isn't interested in the baubles of office. Remember he told us.
He reminds me of the Warriors official in the 95/96 era that was complaining about Ian Robson. Call the radio to say "You wouldn't guess what he's wasting money on now, a plan to Waiheke Island". When asked "Where are you" responds "Getting off the helicopter".
He's always said he's not interested in the baubles of office and then gets the nice Ministry of Foreign Affairs or something else which gives him a lot of travel or other benefits. The sacrifices that makes for us.
Another 3 years of his bullshit
John Nick
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Looking more like that the much vaunted tax policy of selling expensive homes to foreigners is dead in the water.
Treaty reinventing is also on the cards.
Policies are about as much use as an NRL contract.
