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[wizard of Tauranga]

Is your wife in the latter category

Definitely not!

She doesn’t need to work at all and chooses to go there for the socialisation

 

[Worried2Death]

Definitely not!

She doesn’t need to work at all and chooses to go there for the socialisation

To get away from you more like, same reason my wife works full time

 

[defensivebomb]

MOST people only take what they need when sick - eg teachers.

But some see it as an entitlement where you should take the max every year.

It’s crazy eh. There are some people that view their sick leave entitlement as annual leave

I work in the private sector, where your annual leave is your discretionary entitlement. And when you are sick, you take sick leave.

But some industries (eg nurses), it is basically accepted that sick leave is viewed as an entitlement to use at your discretion

Now, I get that nurses are underpaid, and deserve more. But the flip side is that they treat their 10 days of sick leave as annual leave

 

[MaybeTop8]

Employer dealing with these situations in real life. Facts.

Everyone is entitled to 10 days annual leave, regardless of hours worked. If you work one day a week do the maths… 10 weeks per annum.

You mention sick leave. You mention annual leave. You throw the number 10 around. Please link factual references

 

[MaybeTop8]

MOST people only take what they need when sick - eg teachers.

But some see it as an entitlement where you should take the max every year.

So your prejudiced viewpoint. Cool.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

You mention sick leave. You mention annual leave. You throw the number 10 around. Please link factual references

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10 days = 10 weeks sick leave entitlement if you work 1 x 10 hour day per week.

Do you think that’s fair?

 

[MaybeTop8]

10 days = 10 weeks sick leave entitlement if you work 1 x 10 hour day per week.

Do you think that’s fair?

It's 10 days per annum. Jaysis. I have no idea about your version of maths.

Sick leave | Employment New Zealand

Employees are entitled to 10 paid days of sick leave per year so they can care for themselves or their dependents.

www.employment.govt.nz

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

It's 10 days per annum. Jaysis. I have no idea about your version of maths.

Sick leave | Employment New Zealand

Employees are entitled to 10 paid days of sick leave per year so they can care for themselves or their dependents.

www.employment.govt.nz

Cool, agreed.

And if you work 1 day per week, how many weeks would you be entitled to at 10 days per year?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

So your prejudiced viewpoint. Cool.

Are you sheltered; naive or truely just believe everyone are all morally saints?

 

[Worried2Death]

Agree and if you work 1 day per week, how many weeks would you be able to have off?

Seems like you're conflating 10 days paid sick leave with 10 weeks full pay

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Seems like you're conflating 10 days paid sick leave with 10 weeks full pay

It is 10 weeks full pay if you work 1 day per week.

If you work 1 day per week, you work 52 weeks and days in a year. If you have 10 days off sick leave, you work 42 weeks/ days in a year.

That’s 10 weeks off fully paid at your 1 day per week.

 

[Worried2Death]

It is 10 weeks full pay if you work 1 day per week.

If you work 1 day per year, you work 52 weeks in a year. If you have 10 days off sick leave, you work 42 weeks in a year.

That’s 10 weeks off fully paid at your 1 day per week.

Are they entitled to 5 days paid sick leave for each 1 day they take off in a given week? That sounds preposterous.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Seems like you're conflating 10 days paid sick leave with 10 weeks full pay

I have no clue what he's conflating tbh

 

[MaybeTop8]

It is 10 weeks full pay if you work 1 day per week.

If you work 1 day per week, you work 52 weeks and days in a year. If you have 10 days off sick leave, you work 42 weeks/ days in a year.

That’s 10 weeks off fully paid at your 1 day per week.

Seriously? Jaysis I'd hate to see your maths qualifications.

If you're so unhappy why do you employ people? If you don't trust your employees and think the worst, why do you employ people?

 

[Worried2Death]

I have no clue what he's conflating tbh

Me either, I only dropped by to check out Team List Tuesday and I got baited into this.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

they're all on leave rorting the system

All APS jobs basically.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Seriously? Jaysis I'd hate to see your maths qualifications.

If you're so unhappy why do you employ people? If you don't trust your employees and think the worst, why do you employ people?

I employ them as casuals!

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Seriously? Jaysis I'd hate to see your maths qualifications.

I’m not wrong. I’ve employed and paid wages for over 20 years.

I’ve asked you continuously, how many weeks off can a person employed for 1 day per week have in a year for sick pay? Tell me the answer or accept they are entitled to 10 weeks off

 

[MaybeTop8]

I’m not wrong. I’ve employed and paid wages for over 20 years.

I’ve asked you continuously, how many weeks off can a person employed for 1 day per week have in a year for sick pay? Tell me the answer or accept they are entitled to 10 weeks off

I've replied continuously your math is shite

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

I've replied continuously your math is shite

If you can’t understand someone working part time with the same 10 day entitlement gets a larger percentage of their time available as sick leave than someone working full time, then you shouldn’t be commenting on this debate.

It’s what it’s all about and why it’s fundamentally unfair on full time workers and disproportionately assists part time workers and severely affects consistency in workplaces.