Player Tanah Boyd

[Wrighty]

Give Metcalf a chance to take the reins. Webby has talked about him coming along on this front, and being our main man after SJ (as a 7). We haven't seen what he is going to offer us yet.

I don't really disagree with your points as a whole, but if Boyd is a great kicker (which requires vision), an excellent defender, a smart and dedicated team man, and has decent enough pace then what is he missing?

Shit or pedestrian at try assists, I think he played 7 games in 2024 before being dropped and had zero try assists.
2023 was a better year where he had 8 try assists in 21 games but 8 is nothing to write home about when the top halves finish a season with over 20 try assists. He doesn't create tries but who cares is my point as we need someone to get us around the park someone else like Metcalf at stand off can run the cutter in the red zone.

 

[Ever Hopeful]

Shit or pedestrian at try assists, I think he played 7 games in 2024 before being dropped and had zero try assists.
2023 was a better year where he had 8 try assists in 21 games but 8 is nothing to write home about when the top halves finish a season with over 20 try assists. He doesn't create tries but who cares is my point as we need someone to get us around the park someone else like Metcalf at stand off can run the cutter in the red zone.

Sure. I just think a great kicker has vision and a read on the game that would be present with the ball in hand too. It makes me think that his kicking would be organised and solid rather than a massive asset.

Based on the limited games I have watched him in, my eyes say the same.

 

[Inruin]

Relative to TMM and Metcalf and CHT he has a great kicking game.

Based on what?

Kicking metres?
Try assists from kicks?
Repeat sets?
40/20s?

 

[Wrighty]

Sure. I just think a great kicker has vision and a read on the game that would be present with the ball in hand too. It makes me think that his kicking would be organised and solid rather than a massive asset.

We agree. I use hyperbole a lot. Organised and solid in your vernacular is expressed in Wrighty's words as above NRL standard kicker.
I do think his kicking is going be roughly Shaun Johnosn kicking level which is very good. With better goal kicking than Shaun.

 

[Inruin]

Shit or pedestrian at try assists, I think he played 7 games in 2024 before being dropped and had zero try assists.
2023 was a better year where he had 8 try assists in 21 games but 8 is nothing to write home about when the top halves finish a season with over 20 try assists. He doesn't create tries but who cares is my point as we need someone to get us around the park someone else like Metcalf at stand off can run the cutter in the red zone.

That's a big chunk of try involvements to put away just for an occasionally needed long kick which LM can probably do anyway.

 

[Wrighty]

That's a big chunk of try involvements to put away just for an occasionally needed long kick which LM can probably do anyway.

You need long kicks frequently. We also want his goal kicking. As a number of people pointed out we lost 4-5 games this season where we scored more tries than the opposition but couldn't convert to save our lives. We can't have that happen again if we want to make top 4. We need an elite goal kicker. He is right up there and a fantastic acquisition from that one dimension. Admittedly there are other dimensions yes. Which makes him a good person to discuss on the forum.

 

[Mr Drag]

Give Metcalf a chance to take the reins. Webby has talked about him coming along on this front, and being our main man after SJ (as a 7). We haven't seen what he is going to offer us yet.

I don't really disagree with your points as a whole, but if Boyd is a great kicker (which requires vision), an excellent defender, a smart and dedicated team man, and has decent enough pace then what is he missing?

He can kick a field goal, has some great acceleration and even looks like he's been a Warrior for years!

 

[Inruin]

You need long kicks frequently. We also want his goal kicking. As a number of people pointed out we lost 4-5 games this season where we scored more tries than the opposition but couldn't convert to save our lives. We can't have that happen again if we want to make top 4. We need an elite goal kicker. He is right up there and a fantastic acquisition from that one dimension. Admittedly there are other dimensions yes. Which makes him a good person to discuss on the forum.

We rarely struggled to get up field. Our 7's from this season would seem to have a superior short kicking game than him. Yes we lost some games arguably because of goal kicking but you are trading 30 odd try involvements for a better goal kicker than CHT or Pompey. That's a lot of tries to not convert. Would TT or LM do a decent enough job instead?

 

[Ever Hopeful]

I looked at Boyd's perceived strengths out of interest rather than trying to prove a point.

His tackle efficiency is almost identical to CHT, TMM and Metcalf

He has knocked over 3 FGs, one that wobbly close range one against us.

His goal conversion rate is a much of a muchness with CHT (despite recency bias), and Metcalf. Pompey too.

28 forced drop outs in his 69 game FG career.

 

[KPWarrior]

Haven't payed too much attention to him tbh, some highlights of his junior days looked like he was destined for bigger things, hopefully he can stay injury free and recapture some of that.

Welcome aboard TB!
Just knuckle down son.

 

[Wrighty]

2023 average kicking metres per game
	2023​
Boyd	436.33​
Johnson	524​
Cleary	483.13​
Moses	439.34​
Townsend	452.65​

 

[Worried2Death]

Just relieved we've got another genuine nrl-ready 7 in the squad and not have to rely on makeshift halves when inevitable injuries occur. Sensible signing imo.

 

[Wrighty]

I looked at Boyd's perceived strengths out of interest rather than trying to prove a point.

His tackle efficiency is almost identical to CHT, TMM and Metcalf

He has knocked over 3 FGs, one that wobbly close range one against us.

His goal conversion rate is a much of a muchness with CHT (despite recency bias), and Metcalf. Pompey too.

28 forced drop outs in his 69 game FG career.

Metcalf's tackle percentage is an optical illusion. Yes as mentioned he the same at defence as TMM and CHT without the bone crunching tackles.

His career goal kicking percentage is 79.41%
Pompey is 72.58%
CHT is 76.83% (should never goal kick again)
Metcalf is 76.92% (small sample only 10 goals)

 

[Wrighty]

We rarely struggled to get up field.

We did while SJ was not playing.

 

[Inruin]

We did while SJ was not playing.

Really? And if we did doesn't that prove that a long kicking game isn't the main factor in getting a result considering that with him we were 4 from 16 and without him 5 from 8?

 

[Wrighty]

Really? And if we did doesn't that prove that a long kicking game isn't the main factor in getting a result considering that with him we were 4 from 16 and without him 5 from 8?

Good response.

 

[Blain]

Barnett was always a good player and certainly not a meh signing. I was super excited when we got him.

So was I - There were plenty of negative reactions on this forum though.

 

[Christchurch_Warrior]

So was I - There were plenty of negative reactions on this forum though.

I think a lot of the worry was his raised elbow that got him suspended for 6 weeks. He has always been able to play but his discipline was not great when he was younger.

 

[FormerlyJamesW]

Really? And if we did doesn't that prove that a long kicking game isn't the main factor in getting a result considering that with him we were 4 from 16 and without him 5 from 8?

I'm not sure of the stats, but it always felt like we gained way less meterage from penalty kicks than most other teams too.

 

[watcher]

ONe issue regarding the Halves is that last year there was a major difficulty in there being a consistency of selection i think SJ only played 3 consecutive games the last 3 rounds. As far as selecyions go a lot will depend on which players can complement each other especially as to which side they play.