TeamList Rabbitohs vs Warriors - [Round 5, 2024]

[Horriors2013]

Thanks for that.

That clarifies it then, TMM is the no2 stand off and CHT is there or thereabouts for that fourteen job going up against Dylan Walker for that Role (all things being equal Walker was signed to play NRL so even if CHT becomes the Utility, Walker will still get picked every week).

I have been thinking about how they are managing CHT. If he is not selected, it may be purely a function of a return to NRL program designed not to repeat past mistakes where he lost his passion for play in favor of other interests.

I would imagine if the Warriors had done their homework when the resigned CHT, they would have asked what were the challenges for him last time, and what would help him to be on a different path this time.

Speculating here, but perhaps burn out came up, perhaps disappointment around the pressure he puts on himself, the pressure the game and the environment puts on a kid...that kinda thing.

Baring in mind he came into the NRL with commentators saying he was the most exciting junior prospect out of NZ, and then imagining how he felt as he had his struggles after that.

It would make sense for the Warriors to then come up with a plan along the lines of....you missed out on a lot an ideal development pathway last time, what if we strip it all back, start over, ease you back in, check in with you all the time, have built in breaks from play, give you time in the NSW cup to actually round out your game the way you want it etc etc.....

Might be just over thinking it, well I am not even saying I think this is the case, rather, it always strikes me that there is a lot more layers to what happens behind the scenes and in players minds, a well run club will put players development first, in the belief that in the longer term, that is putting the team first.

Pretty sound logic. I'd treat him that way too. It's nurturing your players. Agree with what you are saying.

 

[Inruin]

Cook coming off the bench against our tired pack at the 25 minute mark is part of their game plan. We need a counter strategy. Last year they did the same thing by memory and he cut us to ribbons. He is in good nick at the moment too.

They also had almost flawless handling in the conditions. Not sure they will be able to replicate that this season. Let's hope any bad weather blows over by game time.

 

[Stalefish540]

Thanks for that.

That clarifies it then, TMM is the no2 stand off and CHT is there or thereabouts for that fourteen job going up against Dylan Walker for that Role (all things being equal Walker was signed to play NRL so even if CHT becomes the Utility, Walker will still get picked every week).

I think if CHT ends up playing 14 for the whole season it doesn't really mean much past this season and I don't think that would really bother him at all.

I also don't think CHT or Walker are necessarily fighting for the same spot on the bench. They see Walker as a lock, and they showed that by an unwillingness to shift him even when it seemed logical last year due to certain injuries or games.

Our best bench probably has Walker, CHT, Niukore who can cover an edge injury as both starters play 80, and then a second prop Bunty/Ale/whoever.

Theres a lot of versatility just in the 13, add in that bench and for the most part it covers any sort of scenario/injury during a game.

 

[Tookey 2.0]

In other news to my eyes Zyon Maiu’u out muscled and had better PCMs than Ale in the NSW cup on the weekend. He needs to get some consistent games under his belt where he shows he can be reliable and relied upon (ie not getting sent off) Stick at it Zyon Maiu’u and I can see first grade time coming your way in the 2nd half of the season.

You might need to get your eyes checked then Wrighty.
More run meters and post contact meters go to Ale, who also had more offloads (4) and double the tackle breaks (9). Zyon Maiu’u had 4 more tackles. All in the same amount of minutes on field

 

[Lance155]

I think if CHT ends up playing 14 for the whole season it doesn't really mean much past this season and I don't think that would really bother him at all.

I also don't think CHT or Walker are necessarily fighting for the same spot on the bench. They see Walker as a lock, and they showed that by an unwillingness to shift him even when it seemed logical last year due to certain injuries or games.

Our best bench probably has Walker, CHT, Niukore who can cover an edge injury as both starters play 80, and then a second prop Bunty/Ale/whoever.

Theres a lot of versatility just in the 13, add in that bench and for the most part it covers any sort of scenario/injury during a game.

Yep that is the bench right there. I think Webby is going all in on this year. Chanels development in 1 position will suffer for that but I think it will be OK. With HIA's etc I think he will get plenty of game time to keep fitness up and happy being involved.

 

[run_it_str8_again]

He’s being making last minute changes this year, some kind of mind games, might be affecting the fans more than the opposite coaches lol

Smoke and mirrors strikes again

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He might be standing closer to the camera. Roger's 6ft. Papalii looks 5'7 and a quarter. Laban looks 6ft 6 in this photo. Anyway here's hoping he excels

 

[The Warrior Waka]

Smoke and mirrors strikes again

He might be standing closer to the camera. Roger's 6ft. Papalii looks 5'7 and a quarter. Laban looks 6ft 6 in this photo. Anyway here's hoping he excels

Someone says 6ft2 on here. But Jazz says he's 6ft4.

 

[sup42]

In jonno's continue absence. The current weather forecast for Sydney on Saturday is shit, heavy rain at times with Thunder Storms.

Well well, dejavu, watching the tape of the last time we played, it pissed down that night too and we could not get any traction, spent the whole game pinned and strangled.
Not ideal conditions to bring in young bucks like Laban. I don't think Laban is playing anyway, he has been in the extended squad before, the idea of his playing came out of this forum in the tone of peoples wish list.

Laban like any young forward or young player is prone to dropping the pill here and there, a combination of inexperience, bit like Ford, trying to do the second step before the old catch the pill and secure it first.

Also, the Rabbits would use the weather to really pressure debutantes in a game like this.

But hey, I will be just as thrilled as anyone if Laban does get his wings. I take Webster at his word in that clip, that he is close.

 

[scottyb]

Any of you folks ever go to a game by yourselves? Going to this one on my own on Saturday

when you buy your ticket you can choose the opposition bay, i've done it when they played the roosters. you get stuck in a corner bay but you are surrounded by warriors supporters. I had a great time.

 

[Dannevegas]

Jacob Laban 6 foot 2 110 kgs
He is a hulking frame already at 19 years old.

Bunty’s listed as 188cm, and Laban looks like Bloody Ben Te Kura size next to him

 

[sup42]

I think if CHT ends up playing 14 for the whole season it doesn't really mean much past this season and I don't think that would really bother him at all.

I also don't think CHT or Walker are necessarily fighting for the same spot on the bench. They see Walker as a lock, and they showed that by an unwillingness to shift him even when it seemed logical last year due to certain injuries or games.

Our best bench probably has Walker, CHT, Niukore who can cover an edge injury as both starters play 80, and then a second prop Bunty/Ale/whoever.

Theres a lot of versatility just in the 13, add in that bench and for the most part it covers any sort of scenario/injury during a game.

I agree CHT and Walker will hold different roles in the team and both be options, i must have confused the issue by saying they would be competing for the utility tag.
Perhaps a better way to put it is Walker will no longer be required to be the first of the bench to be chopped around in a utility role....I should have said CHT is inheriting the job.

 

[CWC]

Laban 19 already 6.2 Will grow a bit more I guess. Totally prop material for the club’s needs next year, can probably glide or step like AFB

 

[CWC]

Oh man I am getting mixed results from the Aussie forest lol, are they biased like pollsters ie team thunder and team sunny

Probably rain during the day easing up and will be wet but not raining when we play

 

[The Warrior Waka]

Smoke and mirrors strikes again

He might be standing closer to the camera. Roger's 6ft. Papalii looks 5'7 and a quarter. Laban looks 6ft 6 in this photo. Anyway here's hoping he excels

Izzy is 6ft4. Might be the camera angle?

 

[Makasene]

That's one of the great things about AW's next man up philosophy. Everyone has seen that they potentially are an injury or a bad game away from a call up.

100% - It's a reflection of the culture.

Reserve Grade is not where crap guys end up. It's where good guys force their way into stacked teams.

 

[CWC]

Team of 5M

 

[sydneywarrior92]

I'm not as sanguine about our prospects in this game if it is indeed raining. This year we are clearly employing a different style: instead of attacking with shape, we are adopting a penrith-style gameplan where we dominate field position and essentially kick the other side out of the game once we hit the lead. Seems like the perfect gameplan for the wet against a big but rather immobile souths pack. If anything, I think our new gameplan suits the wet better.

 

[Makasene]

I'm not as sanguine about our prospects in this game if it is indeed raining. This year we are clearly employing a different style: instead of attacking with shape, we are adopting a penrith-style gameplan where we dominate field position and essentially kick the other side out of the game once we hit the lead. Seems like the perfect gameplan for the wet against a big but rather immobile souths pack.

A number of posters on the Knights forum were commenting we are the closest team to Penrith in terms of style.

 

[Wheels 2024]

Scrolling through the comments and have noticed a lot of people picking Laban to start when he hasn’t been named. I am excited by this even though I know nothing about him and his ability. If he does play the credibility of this forum will lift a gear. Based on what I’m hearing I hope he is given the opportunity.

 

[Wah's Up]

Oh man I am getting mixed results from the Aussie forest lol, are they biased like pollsters ie team thunder and team sunny

Probably rain during the day easing up and will be wet but not raining when we play

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Welcome back Jonno, can we now have the run meters