Manly can blame DCE all they want but their problems start up front imo. It was evident from the beginning of the year when we rolled through them at Mt Smart that they don't have the pack to win the comp. Like Brisbane, they lack a real enforcer. Paseka is really their only big aggressive forward and he's basically out for the year. The rest of their middles are old, slow plodders who are well past their best. Having speed and pace in your side means nothing if you get beaten up front every week like Manly has. They have almost the reverse problem to us. One or two speedsters in our backline to complement our aggro pack would turn us into genuine contenders imo.