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Peak Sione Faumuina was elite, in fact even a drunk version was solid enough 😝

But it’s not like my team is full of dribblers, they just haven’t been able to stand up against the genius abilities of their world class opponents - first Brett Seymour, then Chad Townsend & now Mark Horo…
Hey!

Leave Brett Seymour alone

Dude has enough issues without you piling on.

I’ll swap Stacey for Brett straight though.
 
Peak Sione Faumuina was elite, in fact even a drunk version was solid enough 😝

But it’s not like my team is full of dribblers, they just haven’t been able to stand up against the genius abilities of their world class opponents - first Brett Seymour, then Chad Townsend & now Mark Horo…
Like Webster said, its a squad not just a team. Rotation of players to keep them fresher maybe? Stacey looked very tired... might end up burned out.... or worse could get injured more easily and be out for an extended period.

Mark Horo is the ultimate impact player coming in fresh off the bench.....
 
I said last week it’s all totally random
Its not. I wouldnt waste my time w something that is random/flip of the coin.

Do North Koreans know what team means? I see lots of individual comparisons. Is Stacey having a sook? Can you ask him all the underalded halves he lost to? He might be able to educate the owner.
 
Clyde Auction - Franchises who had bid may have noticed on their dashboard that they were 'outbid' in the blind auction. This was an issue and the message was not entirely correct either. Because the auction had not resolved, any team who placed the bid got the same message. So auction will still resolve at scheduled time. And message for outbid was been fixed/removed until atleast resolution.
 
@tajhay
Are these visual bugs or problems with the sim? These are a couple from this week after skimming the game. One shows Taranaki Tortoises attacking then my player (Kevin Campion) makes a tackle and then I get an intercept. Was I attacking or not?
The other shows a 40/20 attempt by Blake Green which is short and should be my ball. It then immediately says the Hawks on attack and they score.
Not sure if there’s a match ID number but it’s Hawks vs Tortoises from RD 9. The times are in the screenshots.
@Barzak

Cheers for flagging these β€” I dug into game 978 (your R9 win over the Hawks) and
both are commentary bugs, not sim bugs. The actual match state was correct, but
the on-screen text was misleading. Let me walk through each.

1) The Blake Green "40/20 attempt"

This wasn't actually a 40/20 attempt. At the 28:37 mark, Green kicked from the
Hawks' own half β€” a high bomb that travelled 36 metres. The sim's structured
record of that play looks like this:

Code:
kick_type=bomb, outcome=bomb_regather, from field 46 to field 82

So Hawks bombed it deep and their own chasers regathered the ball β€” a legit play,
Hawks kept possession. But the commentary system randomly picked a flavor line
that said something like "Green goes for the 40/20… just rolls into touch a metre
short, Tortoises will have the feed from the 20."

That flavor line lives in the generic last-tackle kick commentary pool and gets
used for any normal kick β€” it doesn't reflect what actually happened. Real 40/20s
have their own dedicated event ("40/20! Brilliant kick…") and you'd see the ball
restart at the 20m scrum. None of that happened here because no 40/20 was actually
executed.

Then immediately after, Hawks finished their set and Kevin Locke scored from a
separate play β€” Green put up a bomb that the fullback dropped under chase
pressure (a real bomb_try outcome). Two unrelated kicks back-to-back, but the
first one's commentary made it look like the Hawks had no business having the ball
when Locke scored.

2) The Campion tackle / Meli intercept

This is the 69:12 intercept try by Francis Meli. The real sequence was:


  • []67:47 β€” Hawks knock-on (Dane Nielsen), scrum to you
    []Tortoises attack β€” your set runs through to tackle 5/6
    []68:54 β€” John Simon clearing kick on last
    []Hawks now have possession (~18 seconds with the ball)
    []During this Hawks set, Campion makes a defensive tackle
    []69:12 β€” Meli reads the pass, intercepts, sprints away to score

So Campion was correctly defending β€” possession had switched to Hawks at 68:54.
The problem is the commentary stream doesn't currently emit a clear "Hawks now
have the ball" beat when possession changes via kick. So on the readback you see
"Tortoises attacking" β†’ "Campion tackle" β†’ "INTERCEPT TRY!" with no obvious marker
that the possession flipped in the middle. The result is that 18-second Hawks set
is basically invisible on the screen.

Fixes coming

  1. Removing the misleading "40/20 attempt β€” just short" lines from the generic kick
    commentary pool. They script an outcome the sim doesn't actually execute.
  2. Adding a dedicated bomb-regather commentary line so plays like Green's at 28:37
    get explained properly ("Hawks chasers get there first β€” Hawks retain the ball!").
  3. Adding a possession-change marker so when the ball flips via kick or turnover,
    there's a clear one-liner ("Hawks have possession from their own 20") before the
    next play kicks off.

None of this changes results β€” your 24-16 win stands, Meli's intercept try was
legit, Locke's try was a legit bomb-try. But the way it was narrated made it look
like nonsense, and that's on me. Thanks again for the screenshots, they made it
easy to track down.
 
@Barzak

Cheers for flagging these β€” I dug into game 978 (your R9 win over the Hawks) and
both are commentary bugs, not sim bugs. The actual match state was correct, but
the on-screen text was misleading. Let me walk through each.

1) The Blake Green "40/20 attempt"

This wasn't actually a 40/20 attempt. At the 28:37 mark, Green kicked from the
Hawks' own half β€” a high bomb that travelled 36 metres. The sim's structured
record of that play looks like this:

Code:
kick_type=bomb, outcome=bomb_regather, from field 46 to field 82

So Hawks bombed it deep and their own chasers regathered the ball β€” a legit play,
Hawks kept possession. But the commentary system randomly picked a flavor line
that said something like "Green goes for the 40/20… just rolls into touch a metre
short, Tortoises will have the feed from the 20."

That flavor line lives in the generic last-tackle kick commentary pool and gets
used for any normal kick β€” it doesn't reflect what actually happened. Real 40/20s
have their own dedicated event ("40/20! Brilliant kick…") and you'd see the ball
restart at the 20m scrum. None of that happened here because no 40/20 was actually
executed.

Then immediately after, Hawks finished their set and Kevin Locke scored from a
separate play β€” Green put up a bomb that the fullback dropped under chase
pressure (a real bomb_try outcome). Two unrelated kicks back-to-back, but the
first one's commentary made it look like the Hawks had no business having the ball
when Locke scored.

2) The Campion tackle / Meli intercept

This is the 69:12 intercept try by Francis Meli. The real sequence was:



  • []67:47 β€” Hawks knock-on (Dane Nielsen), scrum to you
    []Tortoises attack β€” your set runs through to tackle 5/6
    []68:54 β€” John Simon clearing kick on last
    []Hawks now have possession (~18 seconds with the ball)
    []During this Hawks set, Campion makes a defensive tackle
    []69:12 β€” Meli reads the pass, intercepts, sprints away to score

So Campion was correctly defending β€” possession had switched to Hawks at 68:54.
The problem is the commentary stream doesn't currently emit a clear "Hawks now
have the ball" beat when possession changes via kick. So on the readback you see
"Tortoises attacking" β†’ "Campion tackle" β†’ "INTERCEPT TRY!" with no obvious marker
that the possession flipped in the middle. The result is that 18-second Hawks set
is basically invisible on the screen.

Fixes coming


  1. Removing the misleading "40/20 attempt β€” just short" lines from the generic kick
    commentary pool. They script an outcome the sim doesn't actually execute.
  2. Adding a dedicated bomb-regather commentary line so plays like Green's at 28:37
    get explained properly ("Hawks chasers get there first β€” Hawks retain the ball!").
  3. Adding a possession-change marker so when the ball flips via kick or turnover,
    there's a clear one-liner ("Hawks have possession from their own 20") before the
    next play kicks off.

None of this changes results β€” your 24-16 win stands, Meli's intercept try was
legit, Locke's try was a legit bomb-try. But the way it was narrated made it look
like nonsense, and that's on me. Thanks again for the screenshots, they made it
easy to track down.
Appreciate the in-depth reply. I know we’re the Guinea pigs for the inaugural season so it’s all part of the experience. Clearing these things up now means in a couple of seasons the competition will be beautifully refined.
 
BTW noticed another bug. Starters lose fitness points moreso than bench players and doesnt take into account minutes played. So in theory you could have had a starting hooker who played first 10 mins, and a bench hooker who played the last 70, and the starting hooker would have lost more fitness by the end of the game. That is also fixed from next round.
 
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