Player Eliesa Katoa

[MrFrankWhite]

In the game sure but if he’s 100% responsible all the time does that mean the independent doctor must watch every single player 24 hours a day outside the game?

The critics factor was it wasn’t during the game and the doctors may have not known, and not be expected to know, unless someone tells him. So surely outside the game it’s on the player and staff to tell the doctors?

Lol it wasnt outside the game at all. He could have slipped over getting on the team bus and its still "related"... Im sure the players will have a clause in their contract that not only limits some outside physical activity but also a requirement to notify the club of any injury suffered in their personal time.

 

[WAH MAN]

Accountability makes lots of people fast runners and expert dodgers.

Eliesa is paying the highest cost. But crazy how nobody has the gumption to say "I am so sorry for not ensuring the care and welfare of this player. I understand the criticism over this and am prepared to accept responsibility for my actions or lack thereof."

Lots of "our guys did the right thing" and "we didn't know" and "I'm sure the inquiry will get to the bottom of everything."

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Lol it wasnt outside the game at all. He could have slipped over getting on the team bus and its still "related"... Im sure the players will have a clause in their contract that not only limits some outside physical activity but also a requirement to notify the club of any injury suffered in their personal time.

I believe the circumstances are outside the game in that doctors, coaches etc aren’t 100% focused on the players, monitoring them and have other pregame obligations, unlike when the game is being played.

I personally don’t expect a doctor to directly see an pregame incident - it’s expected to be a low risk warm up and if players don’t report it then the doctors not a mind reader.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Accountability makes lots of people fast runners and expert dodgers.

Eliesa is paying the highest cost. But crazy how nobody has the gumption to say "I am so sorry for not ensuring the care and welfare of this player. I understand the criticism over this and am prepared to accept responsibility for my actions or lack thereof."

Lots of "our guys did the right thing" and "we didn't know" and "I'm sure the inquiry will get to the bottom of everything."

Court cases mean even if may feel guilty, in the interests of your organisation, you are not allowed to say anything.

When sport becomes a business…

 

[Tookey 2.0]

Apparently Leka was the one on the sidelines who alerted staff and trainers to Eli's deterioration

https://au.news.yahoo.com/teammates...action-over-eli-katoa-incident-230946907.html

 

[Bay39er]

87K views · 239 reactions | Eli Katoa lucky to be running out for Tonga today after copping a brutal friendly fire hit during the warm up! Must have passed all concussion assessments - hopefully no more heavy blows to the head for him today 🤞 | NRL

Eli Katoa lucky to be running out for Tonga today after copping a brutal friendly fire hit during the warm up! Must have passed all concussion assessments - hopefully no more heavy blows to the head...

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In this video Eli is comforted by a person in a yellow top

The top has a word on the arm and while the full word is not visible I can make out at least ..ctor

Is there any sponsor of MMT whose name ends ctor or could the full word be doctor???

 

[Defence]

It’s insane after his second knock they let him back on, even the viewers knew he got knocked down during warm up, medical history should be taken into account with these assessments

That’s giving the benefit of the doubt that he recovered after the first with or without HIA

That’s an interesting point I’ve never heard mentioned before.
Should guys with a history of head knocks like the pongas and egans be treated with more caution?
I’ve no medical background so may be talking out of school but I would think so.
Maybe if u have already failed an HIA that year a grade 2 should be treated as a grade 1?
Idk just spit balling but there’s been many times Ive expected a player to be taken off and he stays on and it’s often the usual suspects.

 

[WAH MAN]

I believe the circumstances are outside the game in that doctors, coaches etc aren’t 100% focused on the players, monitoring them and have other pregame obligations, unlike when the game is being played.

I personally don’t expect a doctor to directly see an pregame incident - it’s expected to be a low risk warm up and if players don’t report it then the doctors not a mind reader.

I get that but it was televised so that a million other eyes saw it. And we can march the warriors back a whole set of six to penalize us for an infringement.

So it's just hard to swallow the we didn't know pill.

 

[tajhay]

Hes in a stable condition now and awake and out of ICU

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The uncle of Eliesa Katoa has confirmed the Tongan star is in a stable condition and has been moved out of intensive care as he recovers from three separate head knocks that led to emergency surgery to ease pressure on his brain.
Katoa’s uncle, Reverend Setelo Katoa, spoke with Tongan radio station PMN Tonga on Wednesday, where he confirmed the Melbourne Storm backrower was “recovering well” while expressing gratitude on behalf of the entire family for the messages of support that had been sent to Katoa ever since he was rushed to hospital from Eden Park last Sunday.

The fallout from Katoa being allowed to take the field after suffering a sickening head knock in the pre-game warm-up of Tonga’s Pacific Championships loss to New Zealand is the focus of the NRL’s sweeping inquest into the incident that also included two further concussions in the ninth and 51st minute of the match.
“At the moment, he’s doing much better,’’ Reverend Setelo told PMN.

“He has been moved from the Intensive Care Unit (ICU) to a general ward in the hospital.

“He’s awake, recovering well, and being looked after by medical staff. The family is very thankful for all the support, love, and prayers from everyone.

Speaking on behalf of the entire Katoa family, Reverend Setelo expressed his deep gratitude to everyone who has been praying and sending love — including from family, friends, the Tongan community, and people around the world.

“They’re thankful to God, the medical staff at the hospital, and everyone who has offered prayers and support,’’ he said.

With Katoa’s immediate playing future in doubt, Reverend Setelo asked for continuing prayer for the NRL star to make a full recovery.

Radio host of PMN Tonga John Nicholas Pulu translated much of the interview spoken in Tongan to English by stating:

“Many people have gathered at churches and prayer groups to pray for Elias and his family,’’ Pulu said.
“The community’s response — both in Tonga and abroad — has been overwhelming.

“The Reverend emphasised that the family feels the strength and love of everyone supporting them and that their faith remains strong.

There’s also a message to the Tongan people and supporters: to continue in unity, prayer, and encouragement for Elias and others representing Tonga. The family is truly moved by the outpouring of love and the way people have come together.

“Supporters from the Melbourne Storm have also sent messages of love and encouragement, saying the whole team and fan base are behind him.’’

The Storm have been in daily contact with Katoa and his family with the club’s welfare manager Young Tonumaipea flying to Auckland on Monday morning.

There is no firm timeline on when Katoa will be omitted from hospital in Auckland to return to Melbourne.

The Storm are eagerly awaiting an outcome from the NRL’s investigation into the traumatic incident, which included Katoa needing to be transported from the interchange bench on a medi-cab with an oxygen mask.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

I get that but it was televised so that a million other eyes saw it. And we can march the warriors back a whole set of six to penalize us for an infringement.

So it's just hard to swallow the we didn't know pill.

I agree it’s not good. But I believe the independent doctor is not at the game and watches on screen from the bunker with access to the referee.

1 - was he even working and in place before the game kicked off?
2 - can he legally intervene outside the kickoff?
3 - if he can, what are the channels or is it reliant on the team doctors (who are not independent)?

These are the question I expect to come out in the review with processes and requirements that all televised vision is reviewed.