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I think it’s as clear cut as rational people don’t end up in that situation.

Everyone made their choices on the day. If you don’t want to put your life in the hands of others choices, don’t play with fire.
I agree with your first point, however, I don't think in this situation it warranted someone losing their life.

Clearly it was a series of poor decisions from both parties, but a trained individual like a law enforcement officer is meant to be able to handle untrained civilians a lot better than he did.
 
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I think it’s as clear cut as rational people don’t end up in that situation.

Everyone made their choices on the day. If you don’t want to put your life in the hands of others choices, don’t play with fire.
Remarkable to see a couple of posters on the right on here slip ever further into the embrace of authoritarianism in real time.

Remarkable how you can reframe a murder and water it down.
 

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I agree with your first point, however, I don't think in this situation it warranted someone losing their life.

Clearly it was a series of poor decisions from both parties, but a trained individual like a law enforcement officer is meant to be able to handle untrained civilians a lot better than he did.
It’s taken a few days of quiet from the usual suspects but they’re here in their glory now. I can’t recall who it was, but what makes me laugh is posters like the one when Charlie Kirk’s throat was blown out saying they won’t talk to anyone again who has negative things to say about him. Just like people want to say Renee Good deserved what she got, as did Kirk to many
 
It’s taken a few days of quiet from the usual suspects but they’re here in their glory now. I can’t recall who it was, but what makes me laugh is posters like the one when Charlie Kirk’s throat was blown out saying they won’t talk to anyone again who has negative things to say about him. Just like people want to say Renee Good deserved what she got, as did Kirk to many
100%.
 
I did security in the MIQs during the last lockdown in Auckland. Had a courier refuse to give his details over to us (they were used in case someone got COVID for tracking purposes), bloke tried to do a runner and stupid me was in front of his car. Did I fear for my life? No I moved out of the way as they were at a stop and moved forward slowly enough that I could move out of the way, it's a similar situation here IMO.

Moral of the story is, civilians are unpredictable and untrained, the law enforcement officer should not have been in front of the vehicle as they are trained to do and did not need to have his weapon unholstered for this particular scenario. Should she have been there? No, but it's arguable she was doing anything illegal before the incident.
 

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Canada and China deepen ties to go with Canada going into an agreement with India, Japan and another nation? Trumps concern about Greenland being taken over by foreign powers and proximity to America surely must be the same in this regard?
 
It comes down to was she presenting a threat to life to him or any other person that could not be resokved with any less violent manner.

I was a cop and faced these shoot no shoot situations both operationally and in exercises. I also faced real situations where I would have been justified to fire but had no firearm.

From what I have seen he could have got out of the way so I do not think it was justified but do not have alk the facts.
 

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First Trumps NAZI Party did this to Ukraine, hand over your minerals or else.

Then Venezuela.

Now Greenland.

The third world war is now, only this time the NAZIs are so overwhelmingly powerful that no shots have been fired in defence against their invasion and or coercive stealing of mineral wealth.

The American Reich have invaded their own cities.

Now thanks to the President for peace we sit back and watch Europe play a Nuclear game of chicken.
 

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First Trumps NAZI Party did this to Ukraine, hand over your minerals or else.

Then Venezuela.

Now Greenland.

The third world war is now, only this time the NAZIs are so overwhelmingly powerful that no shots have been fired in defence against their invasion and or coercive stealing of mineral wealth.

The American Reich have invaded their own cities.

Now thanks to the President for peace we sit back and watch Europe play a Nuclear game of chicken.
Very interesting tightrope for NZ if this does in fact kick off. FBI presence in Wellington and looking to deepen ties to America while having a free trade deal with China and looking to go into one with India who oppose America
 
Sounds right, based on the patterns previously. Thiel is a dark actor in all of this, and is profiting hugely. He's also batshit crazy.
It’s a tough situation because some would say this woman is who’s batshit crazy, but you’re right with patterns and projects 2025 and 2026 being a thing, you’d be mad not to at least give it consideration
 

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First Trumps NAZI Party did this to Ukraine, hand over your minerals or else.

Then Venezuela.

Now Greenland.

The third world war is now, only this time the NAZIs are so overwhelmingly powerful that no shots have been fired in defence against their invasion and or coercive stealing of mineral wealth.

The American Reich have invaded their own cities.

Now thanks to the President for peace we sit back and watch Europe play a Nuclear game of chicken.
Yep.

All of that disinformation, the anti vaxxers, the anti science, anti climate change, all the promotion of far right theories, the misogyny, the racism, the bigotry, the homophobia - all patterns of the right, all lies to bring certain people into their fold, and perform the task of "othering" - all those that don't fit under the far right's umbrella.

Happening in real time.

And the same people behind this, bearing in mind there is no one strategy here, just some overall designs that are being enacted that coincide with Russia's aims, and China's aims, are the same people that caused the economic conditions that have led to the huge wealth inequalities around the world, are now the same people purporting to be the saviours.

Sadly, people have fallen for it. It's history rhyming.

The question is, how do we all respond? We all have a moral obligation and a moral choice.

It's fucking scary.

I know who is under the far right umbrella in this forum, and I can guess who is in our parliament too - be warned, New Zealand will follow sadly.

And those same people also were bleating about free speech - turns out it's only their free speech, not the rest of the world.

You can't say we don't have the information and history available to us, unless you choose to believe those who wish to destroy facts, education, science and democratic society.

Scary times indeed.
 
I think given that she blocked the road, refused to follow instructions, tried to flee and hit the agent with her car (however incidental) is pretty clear cut. Some might not like that but that's how it has played out. Do you think they'll find it any other way?
 

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Who knows what goes through Frank's head.

We do know the last thing to go through Renee Good's head though
You mean all these years of sanctimonious posting here and it turns out you actually are a nasty fuck wit.

Who would’ve thought eh!
 
I think given that she blocked the road, refused to follow instructions, tried to flee and hit the agent with her car (however incidental) is pretty clear cut. Some might not like that but that's how it has played out. Do you think they'll find it any other way?
Do you really think that warrants being killed? Thats an outrageous precedent if so.

They won't find it any other way, you and I both know that. The investigation isn't going to be very independent though.
 
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