If Russia and China overcome and out power the US, what do you think is the implication for NZ?
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Not sure why you're excluding the US. They're equally if not more dangerous
You sure ain't kidding! USA is well and truly fucked.
AI is a great tool - I asked whether there was any restriction on raising funds for any purpose
GoFundMe has specific "Prohibited Conduct" sections in their Terms of Service that ban campaigns for certain purposes. Based on their most recent policies (including updates relevant to 2025–2026), you cannot start an appeal for the following:
1. Legal Defense for Violent Crimes
This is the most relevant criterion regarding your previous question about the ICE agent. GoFundMe explicitly prohibits raising money for the legal defense of alleged financial and violent crimes.
- The Rule: The policy generally applies when formal charges are filed. It covers crimes such as murder, assault, battery, robbery, and sex crimes.
- Nuance: If a person has not been formally charged with a violent crime, GoFundMe may allow the campaign to remain active. This is likely why the campaign for Agent Ross (who, according to reports, had not been charged as of early Jan 2026) was able to raise funds, whereas campaigns for people formally charged with murder are typically removed.
You cannot raise funds for causes that promote or support:
- Hate speech or discrimination based on race, ethnicity, religion, disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity.
- Acts of violence or terrorism.
- Bullying, harassment, or intolerance of any kind.
- Groups or individuals known to promote hate (e.g., KKK, Neo-Nazis).
- False Claims: Campaigns that contain misleading or factually incorrect information about the organizer, beneficiary, or purpose.
- Medical Misinformation: Campaigns promoting medical treatments that are prohibited by health authorities or widely recognized as baseless/dangerous (e.g., anti-vaccination misinformation).
- Weapons: You cannot raise money to purchase firearms, ammunition, or explosives.
- Illegal Drugs: Campaigns for narcotics, steroids, or drug paraphernalia are banned.
- Money Laundering: Any activity intended to hide the origin of money.
- Gambling: You cannot fundraise for raffles, lotteries, sweepstakes, or sports betting syndicates.
- Campaigns related to pornography or other sexual content are prohibited.
- You cannot raise funds for individuals or entities located in countries under comprehensive US sanctions (e.g., Iran, North Korea, Syria).
Here are the specific details of their official response and current position:
1. The Official Statement
A GoFundMe spokesperson stated that their "Trust & Safety team is currently reviewing all fundraisers related to the shooting in Minneapolis to ensure they are compliant with our terms of service."
2. The Key Distinction: "Formally Charged"
The spokesperson clarified how they are applying the "Violent Crime" policy in this specific case. They stated that the platform prohibits fundraisers for the legal defense of anyone "formally charged with a violent crime."
- Why it remains active: Because Jonathan Ross has not been formally charged with a crime as of January 13, 2026, the campaign does not currently violate this specific interpretation of their policy.
- Implication: If prosecutors were to file charges against the agent in the future, the campaign would likely be removed immediately under this rule.
Journalists (specifically from the Minnesota Star Tribune) noted a discrepancy between the written Terms of Service and the spokesperson's statement.
- Written Terms: The written policy bans "the legal defense of financial and violent crimes"—it does not explicitly include the words "formally charged."
- Application: However, GoFundMe appears to be using the "formally charged" standard as the trigger for enforcement, allowing the campaign to continue for now.
As a result of this decision, the campaign (organized by Clyde Emmons) remains active. Reports from late Monday, January 12, indicate the total has now surpassed $500,000.
The primary alternative platform hosting campaigns for Jonathan Ross is GiveSendGo, which markets itself as a "free speech" alternative to GoFundMe and has significantly different policies regarding legal defense funds.
Here is the breakdown of the campaigns on that platform as of January 13, 2026:
1. The GiveSendGo Campaigns
- Total Raised: The main campaign on GiveSendGo (titled "Stand With Our Brave ICE Hero") has raised over $186,000 (approaching its $200,000 goal).
- Combined Total: Between GoFundMe (~$500k) and GiveSendGo (~$186k), the total support pledged to the agent is now approaching $700,000.
- Direct Support: unlike GoFundMe, which is still verifying the beneficiary, GiveSendGo co-founder Jacob Wells publicly stated he has spoken directly with Agent Ross to arrange the transfer of funds.
GiveSendGo generally permits campaigns that GoFundMe bans. Their specific stance includes:
- "Innocent Until Proven Guilty": GiveSendGo explicitly allows fundraising for the legal defense of individuals charged with violent crimes (e.g., they previously hosted funds for Kyle Rittenhouse and Daniel Penny). They state that denying access to legal defense funds is a form of censorship.
- No "Violent Crime" Ban: Unlike GoFundMe, they do not have a policy that automatically removes campaigns based on the nature of the alleged crime.
The GiveSendGo campaign has been more politically aggressive in its language than the GoFundMe equivalent:
- Rhetoric: The campaign page referred to the victim (Ms. Good) as a "radical leftist agitator" and a "domestic terrorist."
- Antisemitism Controversy: The campaign originally included an attack on Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey that specifically referenced his Jewish identity. After significant backlash and media attention, that specific reference was deleted, but the rest of the campaign remains active.
While GiveSendGo is the main alternative, there have been smaller, unverified campaigns appearing on other fringe platforms, but none have gained the financial traction of the main two.
I beg to differ.
No kidding.
The facts are telling you otherwise, it's a good opportunity to reexamine your original sources and foundations that you may have come to take on board over the last years and decide how truthful and trustworthy they really are.
Good for us all really.
ICE aren't law enforcement, they're jackbooted thugs, Trump's private army. To enforce the law you have to obey it in the first place.
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Trump has another justification for the shooting of Renee Good - disrespect
NY Times: 'At a very minimum, that woman was very, very disrespectful to law enforcement'
I noticed the slogan in front of the podium the Secretary of Homeland Security was using and it triggered something so again I turned to AI
Here is the breakdown of its usage and the controversy surrounding its history:
1. Immediate Context (January 2026)
Critics and historians immediately flagged the phrase as having roots in—or strongly echoing—fascist rhetoric and Nazi collective punishment logic.
The phrase "One of Ours, All of Yours" gained prominence in January 2026 when it appeared on a podium used by Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Kristi Noem.Here is the breakdown of its usage and the controversy surrounding its history:
1. Immediate Context (January 2026)
- The Incident: The slogan appeared on a placard on the front of Secretary Noem's podium during a press conference in Manhattan on January 8, 2026.
- The Timing: This press conference occurred just one day after the shooting of Renee Nicole Good. While the press conference was ostensibly held to discuss an unrelated shooting of an off-duty agent in New York, critics viewed the timing and the slogan as a direct message regarding the Minneapolis incident.
- The Meaning: In this context, the slogan acts as a statement of retribution and collective punishment. It implies that if "one of ours" (a federal agent) is harmed or threatened, the agency will come after "all of yours" (the opposing community, protesters, or the public). It signals a doctrine of overwhelming force in response to any resistance against federal agents.
Critics and historians immediately flagged the phrase as having roots in—or strongly echoing—fascist rhetoric and Nazi collective punishment logic.
- Nazi Retribution: The phrase is often cited as a summary of the brutal retributive logic used by the Nazis in occupied territories during World War II. The most famous example is the Lidice massacre (1942), where the assassination of one high-ranking Nazi official (Reinhard Heydrich) led to the liquidation of an entire village ("One of ours, all of yours").
- Fascist Rallying Cry: While not as ubiquitous as other slogans, it has been described by historians and political commentators as a doctrine of terror used to dissuade resistance by promising disproportionate retaliation against the wider group rather than just the individual responsible.
- Criticism: The use of the slogan was widely condemned by civil rights groups and media outlets (such as The American Prospect) as a "fascist rallying cry" and a "dog whistle." Critics argued that for a U.S. government official to adopt a slogan associated with collective punishment—especially in the wake of a controversial shooting of a civilian—was an explicit threat to the American public.
- Interpretation: It was interpreted as the DHS signaling that they view the public (or specific segments of it) as an enemy combatant force rather than citizens to be protected
Anyone here looked into the Sascha Riley testimony tapes that are going around atm? Very sick shit involving snuff tapes, Trump and other politicians like Lyndsey Graham, not sure if I should post it here in case he's just some schizo.
Of course you should post it. This thread is becoming very Schizo.
Getting to the stage where I'm going to have to AI every comment, statement, U tube video, x post and and most of all Buzz to get a handle on how the Wah's are doing, never mind what's going on in the rest of the world.
So, if we have a FBI presence here, do we also have ICE looking for escapees and because I drive a Yank Tank, am I person of interest. Watch this space. If I don't post for a few weeks, I'm on holiday or in Guantanamo as I've heard Cuba is next cab off the rank
Oh well, see you in Gitmo then RickOf course you should post it. This thread is becoming very Schizo.
Getting to the stage where I'm going to have to AI every comment, statement, U tube video, x post and and most of all Buzz to get a handle on how the Wah's are doing, never mind what's going on in the rest of the world.
So, if we have a FBI presence here, do we also have ICE looking for escapees and because I drive a Yank Tank, am I person of interest. Watch this space. If I don't post for a few weeks, I'm on holiday or in Guantanamo as I've heard Cuba is next cab off the rank
"Don't worry. Boys are hard to find." Part 1 o2
Trump/Epstein and Associated Criminal Enterprises: Victim Interviews: SR
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What we really need is more red spandex
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Hahaha, I'll be the bald guy with the paunch and the 1000 yd stare.
I came on this thread for a bit of a look but Jesus wept, it should be renamed the Newton Thread. ( I love his first Law)
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. How long until the season starts?
If history is looked back on 100 years later with the fullness of time, based on how events changed the world, the trajectory of the history is being shifted by Trump.
If all russia and Chinas allies (Venezuela, Iran, etc) are picked off and Russia is strangled to death, will trump be seen any differently with the passing of time?
A tactical genius who did what many others wouldn’t? The man who freed more people from oppression than anyone ever? Or a madman that meddled in others affairs?
Time will tell…
If all russia and Chinas allies (Venezuela, Iran, etc) are picked off and Russia is strangled to death, will trump be seen any differently with the passing of time?
A tactical genius who did what many others wouldn’t? The man who freed more people from oppression than anyone ever? Or a madman that meddled in others affairs?
Time will tell…
He's still a white supremacist convicted rapist fraudster with ties to a paedophilia network
Those are definitely distasteful personal qualities affecting a handful of people.
If he lifts millions out of oppression how will history judge him?
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Who is oppressed in America?
I care not for Americans. They voted for their president and get everything they deserve.
I’m talking global politics Iran, Venezuela, strengthening Isreal to rule the Middle East. Tariffs to try to react to Chinas rise.
I don’t agree with much of it, but rightly or wrongly, the world will be very different post trump.
Many change makers are despised at the time but history treats them kindy. I’m just thinking big picture how history is going to evaluate this fascinating time of change we’re going through.
I dunno ...
Napoleon and Hitler are polarising to be kind.
Noitall
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Trump administration's posts echo rhetoric linked to extremist groups
Just weeks into the new year, the Trump administration has rolled out a campaign across departments that draws on images and ideas borrowed from right-wing and white nationalist circles. Liz Landers reports on what some of these images and posts mean, and Amna Nawaz discusses more with Cynthia...
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Talking about the defend the homeland video with links to an old group in the wording
Yesterday talking about how civil rights has been bad for white people