Politics 🤡 Donald Trump

[Noitall]

Huh? NATO is a military organization with the sole purpose of countering Russia. How is that in any shape similar to the US peacefully securing NPPs?

Because the USA is still apart of nato until trump decides otherwise. It’s contradictory to everything Russia was concerned about when countries like Ukraine wanted to join

 

[Noitall]

Like all true powers, they dont care. And why should they?

Because there’s a power in China big enough and powerful enough to really challenge them on their worldwide role and dominance

 

[j_p]

Isn’t most of what Trump says in jest. People take him to literally.

He’s a deranged lunatic that acts like an 4 year old and you have to filter everything he says through that lens.

Eg there is 0% chance he’s physically attacking Canada and the Canadians have gone nuts as he mocks them. I honestly think he’s just trolling them! An attack will never ever, ever, EVER happen.

This is the president of the US you're describing. Let that sink in

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Because the USA is still apart of nato until trump decides otherwise. It’s contradictory to everything Russia was concerned about when countries like Ukraine wanted to join

No it’s nothing like it actually. There’s US troops frequently in proximity to the Russian border. That’s not analogous to Russian complaints of NATO military buildup on its borders. Which involves divisions of troops, missiles and artillery.

The US troops won’t be there to protect against Russia anyway.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Because there’s a power in China big enough and powerful enough to really challenge them on their worldwide role and dominance

China? The country that’s genociding the Uyghurs, employing slave labour, and is building 10x as many coal plants as the rest of the world combined?

So the moral high ground .

 

[Rizzah]

China? The country that’s genociding the Uyghurs, employing slave labour, and is building 10x as many coal plants as the rest of the world combined?

So the moral high ground .

It's interesting when looking up 'genociding the Uyghurs' - one of the first links is the US Holocaust Memorial Museum, it has a genocide prevention page with a list of country case studies - incl the Uyghurs, Sudan, Burma, Ukraine etc etc. Israel and Palestine are noticeably absent.

 

[Warriorshopeful]

Huh? NATO is a military organization with the sole purpose of countering Russia. How is that in any shape similar to the US peacefully securing NPPs?

Because US is part of NATO and they mentioned the grid would be safer if owned by America, which seems to be a veiled suggestion of if America owned the power stations they would protect it. Also America has been the one calling for European members to increase defence spending thereby increasing NATO military power?

 

[Warriorshopeful]

It's interesting when looking up 'genociding the Uyghurs' - one of the first links is the US Holocaust Memorial Museum, it has a genocide prevention page with a list of country case studies - incl the Uyghurs, Sudan, Burma, Ukraine etc etc. Israel and Palestine are noticeably absent.

The Israel-Palestine issue seems something you're pretty passionate about. Do you think there's a solution where everyone can be happy or will neither side be willing to compromise?

 

[Rizzah]

The Israel-Palestine issue seems something you're pretty passionate about. Do you think there's a solution where everyone can be happy or will neither side be willing to compromise?

Israel won't compromise, not whilst they have the US funding them.
Israel basically controls US foreign policy in the middle east. Bibi wants a war with Iran, which it looks increasingly like he will get. Israel is a massive threat to security in that part of the world.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Because US is part of NATO and they mentioned the grid would be safer if owned by America, which seems to be a veiled suggestion of if America owned the power stations they would protect it. Also America has been the one calling for European members to increase defence spending thereby increasing NATO military power?

There’s only one threat to nuclear power plants in Ukraine and it’s not the Russians.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Jaysis. He means what he says. He's saying it up front! This is who he is!

Who cares.

The reality is our worldwide economy and domestic economies are highly balanced, complex interlinked entities. Every action has a reaction.

Our capitalist systems are honed by decades of trial and error and are optimised through a survival of the fittest type system. That is the hallmarks of capitalism.

He can’t change things without consequences that are worse. And he will get a backlash through lower stock market valuations (already happening), and high cost of living (already happening) which just punish his supporters.

A leader in a democracy can’t change stuff easily, fast or for the better on a whim. The pain is smashing his backers hard.

We saw this with Labour economic changes last term that didn’t work and have been reversed (wellness budgets, changing Reserve banks goals, high taxes, high minimum wage increases, etc). Whatever some of you think, the reality has been our deepest longest recession for 30 years. You can’t just change capitalisms settings on a whim.

Trump will end up Arderned, and she started from a higher popularity space. End of the day, the economy is irrelevant when it’s going good and EVERYTHING when politicians tinker with it.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Who cares.

The reality is our worldwide economy and domestic economies are highly balanced, complex interlinked entities. Every action has a reaction.

Our capitalist systems are honed by decades of trial and error and are optimised through a survival of the fittest type system. That is the hallmarks of capitalism.

He can’t change things without consequences that are worse. And he will get a backlash through lower stock market valuations (already happening), and high cost of living (already happening) which just punish his supporters.

A leader in a democracy can’t change stuff easily, fast or for the better on a whim. The pain is smashing his backers hard.

We saw this with Labour economic changes last term that didn’t work and have been reversed (wellness budgets, changing Reserve banks goals, high taxes, high minimum wage increases, etc). Whatever some of you think, the reality has been our deepest longest recession for 30 years. You can’t just change capitalisms settings on a whim.

Trump will end up Arderned, and she started from a higher popularity space. End of the day, the economy is irrelevant when it’s going good and EVERYTHING when politicians tinker with it.

"Who cares" - the entire world apart from those on the right, far right, disinformation rabbit holes and fascism. Oh and Putin. You keep saying Trump won't do anything he says, he actually IS. Right now. In front of your eyes.

"Our capitalist systems are honed by decades of trial and error and are optimised through a survival of the fittest type system. That is the hallmarks of capitalism." - no, they're honed by the wealthy to extract more and more wealth. The rest of us get to eat shit in various formats. It's rigged. And now neoliberalism was on the way out the rules have miraculously been upgraded to feed the oligarchs.

"He can’t change things without consequences that are worse" - Correct

"And he will get a backlash through lower stock market valuations (already happening), and high cost of living (already happening) which just punish his supporters." - He doesn't care. Watch him dismantle democracy even further. He's already attacking the judicial systems openly. He's an authoritarian dictator.

"A leader in a democracy can’t change stuff easily, fast or for the better on a whim. The pain is smashing his backers hard." Trump can and does change things fast. He doesn't care. Also doesn't care much about his backers, only those that are giving him money now.

"We saw this with Labour economic changes last term that didn’t work and have been reversed (wellness budgets, changing Reserve banks goals, high taxes, high minimum wage increases, etc). Whatever some of you think, the reality has been our deepest longest recession for 30 years. You can’t just change capitalisms settings on a whim." -

So many things wrong in these few sentences. The things you list have nothing to do with Trump or his style of governance at all. The recession was manufactured by the Reserve Bank, have a read of all of Rizzah's posts to get an understanding of how things actually work, vs the neolib dominant economic system. The recession was unnecessarily extended by National's cuts and austerity.

National just have changed capitalisms settings on a whim. So has Trump.