Politics πŸ€‘ Donald Trump

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Two very conservative former senior politicians
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John Major: Trump’s US isolationism threatens global democracy

Former UK prime minister says US may regret ceding world stage to China and condemns β€˜hypocritical’ JD Vance speech
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www.stuff.co.nz

Trump’s former Vice President states it very plainly: β€˜Mr President, Ukraine did not start this war’

β€œRussia launched an unprovoked and brutal invasion claiming hundreds of thousands of lives. The Road to Peace must be built on the Truth,” Mike Pence wrote.
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MaybeTop8 said:
Two very conservative former senior politicians
www.theguardian.com

John Major: Trump’s US isolationism threatens global democracy

Former UK prime minister says US may regret ceding world stage to China and condemns β€˜hypocritical’ JD Vance speech
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

www.stuff.co.nz

Trump’s former Vice President states it very plainly: β€˜Mr President, Ukraine did not start this war’

β€œRussia launched an unprovoked and brutal invasion claiming hundreds of thousands of lives. The Road to Peace must be built on the Truth,” Mike Pence wrote.
www.stuff.co.nz www.stuff.co.nz
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John Major? The bloke partially responsible for the Srebrenica massacre? :ROFLMAO:
 
MrFrankWhite said:
John Major? The bloke partially responsible for the Srebrenica massacre? :ROFLMAO:
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My brother wrote an academic paper on that subject, I read it for academic interest.
I also worked with a guy that was a teen caught up in the worst of that affair, a refugee, crazy asf when he stopped his meds, he would abuse me something horrific, but I never lost the Aroha for him, when he was well he would hug me, cry, and appologize. Witnessing Cannibalism, gang rape from Soldiers and mass genocide of your family will require some understanding on the part of mental health workers who end up dealing with the fall out.
 
sup42 said:
My brother wrote an academic paper on that subject, I read it for academic interest.
I also worked with a guy that was a teen caught up in the worst of that affair, a refugee, crazy asf when he stopped his meds, he would abuse me something horrific, but I never lost the Aroha for him, when he was well he would hug me, cry, and appologize. Witnessing Cannibalism, gang rape from Soldiers and mass genocide of your family will require some understanding on the part of mental health workers who end up dealing with the fall out.
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The documentary The Death Of Yugoslavia has haunted me for years. First war live on CNN.
 
So what happens when Trump and Putin openly team the rest of the planet? When Russia and the United States become a new World order, and empire that cannot be rivaled by the rest?

One thing seems obvious to me about America becoming the enemy of Europe and forming the new Russo American empire.

Trump can stay in power forever, well for as long as his life span, which is at the heart of the whole new world order.

I think some people are ok with that based off identity politics. Ergo White dictators in control of everyone and unstoppable has a certain racial beauty in the minds of those who feel the White race has been under threat from progressive thinking. That is how you go from so called main stream or normal people thinking Russia is the enemy to now Russia is our friend coz Trump says so and Trump is always gonna put White folks first.

That by definition is white supremacy but anywho people often don't actually understand what white supremacy means.
 
sup42 said:
So what happens when Trump and Putin openly team the rest of the planet? When Russia and the United States become a new World order, and empire that cannot be rivaled by the rest?

One thing seems obvious to me about America becoming the enemy of Europe and forming the new Russo American empire.

Trump can stay in power forever, well for as long as his life span, which is at the heart of the whole new world order.

I think some people are ok with that based off identity politics. Ergo White dictators in control of everyone and unstoppable has a certain racial beauty in the minds of those who feel the White race has been under threat from progressive thinking. That is how you go from so called main stream or normal people thinking Russia is the enemy to now Russia is our friend coz Trump says so and Trump is always gonna put White folks first.

That by definition is white supremacy but anywho people often don't actually understand what white supremacy means.
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What's China’s place in the new order, is it the multipolar one Xi has planned? Looks like the enemy's at the gate in the Tasman right now.
 
Worried2Death said:
What's China’s place in the new order, is it the multipolar one Xi has planned? Looks like the enemy's at the gate in the Tasman right now.
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Hard to say.

Ïn times like these you look to history for guidance. But there have never been times like these in our living memory.

China you would expect would play GO, while Russo America plays Chess.

China off the coast of Australia is just flexing to remind Australia that thanks to Trump they are no longer safe, no one is.

Aussie took a hardline against China and the Chinese were offended. It is a clear fark u eh bro to Canberra.

One thing we all know is that China will capitalize on the instability and fear, I think China will play the benevolent Satan that the small fish get into bed with because of the VΓ€ccum Russo America is creating. A role China knows well.


I mean seriously already the business sector of multiple countries is thinking lets do business with the Chinese to get away from the US Trumpian economic disaster that is building.
 
sup42 said:
So what happens when Trump and Putin openly team the rest of the planet? When Russia and the United States become a new World order, and empire that cannot be rivaled by the rest?

One thing seems obvious to me about America becoming the enemy of Europe and forming the new Russo American empire.

Trump can stay in power forever, well for as long as his life span, which is at the heart of the whole new world order.

I think some people are ok with that based off identity politics. Ergo White dictators in control of everyone and unstoppable has a certain racial beauty in the minds of those who feel the White race has been under threat from progressive thinking. That is how you go from so called main stream or normal people thinking Russia is the enemy to now Russia is our friend coz Trump says so and Trump is always gonna put White folks first.

That by definition is white supremacy but anywho people often don't actually understand what white supremacy means.
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Just to make into layman’s terms for me.
Trump and Putin are going to combine forces and the countries will fall into line because they fear white supremacy could be at risk?
 
Hope that Chinese frigate doesn’t come raid NZ. Half our fleet is sunk at Samoa. They sense weakness…

Maybe that Cook Islands PM meeting the Chinese without our permission is going to be installed as our new leader. Coincidence?

Half NZ has had enough of Luxon anyway so maybe that wouldn’t be such a bad thing?

Who knows Chinese so we can get in the good books of our new overlords? Just as long as they keep the Warriors to placate us worker bees.
 
wizard of Tauranga said:
Hope that Chinese frigate doesn’t come raid NZ. Half our fleet is sunk at Samoa. They sense weakness…

Maybe that Cook Islands PM meeting the Chinese without our permission is going to be installed as our new leader. Coincidence?

Half NZ has had enough of Luxon anyway so maybe that wouldn’t be such a bad thing?
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We're going to be a vassal state of the Cook Islands, calling it now. This is what Tony Iro's been planning all along.
 
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WA Warrior said:
Just to make into layman’s terms for me.
Trump and Putin are going to combine forces and the countries will fall into line because they fear white supremacy could be at risk?
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The world is now ruled by two white blokes that believe in looking after their own above all others (definition of supremacy white supremacy means you believe whites are better in power at the exclusion of others, it is a simple idea that a lot of white people do not understand., because that would mean they would have to accept they are white supremacists privately in their personal held beliefs that white power as in literal power is best for the world.).

Many white Americans are thrilled with this outcome. Many White Russians are thrilled with this outcome.

Simply it is a great age if you are white and pretty much believe in fuck the rest of the world.

Hitler tried to get this type of power, Trump with Putin now have it. Absolute White nationalism.

Welcome to the new world order.
 
sup42 said:
The world is now ruled by two white blokes that believe in looking after their own above all others (definition of supremacy).

Many white Americans are thrilled with this outcome. Many White Russians are thrilled with this outcome.

Simply it is a great age if you are white and pretty much believe in fuck the rest of the world.

Hitler tried to get this type of power, Trump with Putin now have it. Absolute White nationalism.

Welcome to the new world order.
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Ok. Interesting views.
 
sup42 said:
The world is now ruled by two white blokes that believe in looking after their own above all others (definition of supremacy).

Many white Americans are thrilled with this outcome. Many White Russians are thrilled with this outcome.

Simply it is a great age if you are white and pretty much believe in fuck the rest of the world.

Hitler tried to get this type of power, Trump with Putin now have it. Absolute White nationalism.

Welcome to the new world order.
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Chinese taking over with our new Cook Island PM would solve all these issues in NZ.
 
sup42 said:
well not really that interesting if you do a search on the definition academically of white supremacy it is a believe held by many, perhaps even the majority of white people, without them actually realizing that it is a white supremacist outlook.
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Meanwhile all the white supremisists on this forum follow a team with a majority of pacific and māori players; value them; have them as our favourite players and man love them.

The majority of the main parties leaders in NZ politics are māori with widespread support across the spectrum. From TPM to NZ First to ACT. Funny how many whites vote for a māori leader…

Maybe the average NZer just doesn’t actually see everything through a racial lens?
 
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