Politics đź¤ˇ Donald Trump


Next week:

Trump: the USA owns the entire universe because we have NASA

Sane, smart, logical people: OMG he can’t do that this is outrageous!

Trump: the rest of the world have agreed to increase their space exploration budgets so we will only claim Mars.

Sane, smart, logical people: phew, we can control his insanity by negotiating hard!

Trump supporters: hehe, we just got Mars!


Who’s the same, smart, logical ones again?
 

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If nothing else this is all highly entertaining 🤣

Trump knows how to entertain!
Won't be entertaining for anyone else as all we'll have is the sound of sirens and the sudden loss of the Kardashians as the EMP hits but:

I have visions of Trump and Putin calling each other through the Washington-Moscow hotline and singing "War Pigs" together as it all goes nuclear....
 
Pay attention to the fascist autocratic dictatorship, bolstered by oligarchs in front of your eyes. This is your mob in action. Vacuous insults about a mythical left just don't cut it. You've been had. Unless this is what you want, in which case you're one of them
The left had it too, does George Soros ring bells, or all the tech guys that the left had censor anyone with a right wing viewpoint for years.
Wow the right got Elon who voted democrat for years.

Yes I don't agree fully with everything that has been done I don't like I'm not into this starforce thing he has created with Ellison, Altman and the Japanese guy. I can see what this could lead too.

Don't go on acting like the left just wants to raise taxes and spread the wealth and promote equity. As everything you say about the right can be applied to the left.
 

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The left had it too, does George Soros ring bells, or all the tech guys that the left had censor anyone with a right wing viewpoint for years.
Wow the right got Elon who voted democrat for years.

Yes I don't agree fully with everything that has been done I don't like I'm not into this starforce thing he has created with Ellison, Altman and the Japanese guy. I can see what this could lead too.

Don't go on acting like the left just wants to raise taxes and spread the wealth and promote equity. As everything you say about the right can be applied to the left.
Sorry mate, demanding equivalence is part of the culture war bullshit too. There’s nothing vaguely like what we're seeing apart from any other fascist authoritarian dictatorship with oligarchs that's happened ever
 

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Sorry mate, demanding equivalence is part of the culture war bullshit too. There’s nothing vaguely like what we're seeing apart from any other fascist authoritarian dictatorship with oligarchs that's happened ever
As a fellow progressive, much of the social advancement in society today has been from the left (Woman’s rights; equality; LGBT; BLM, etc). It’s something to be proud of. And as it’s been the same all around the world you could say it’s been a planned push shaping society for the better.

What major changes has the right bought to society for better or worse? Even as a centralist, some big right conspiracy is a bit of a stretch. Maybe just rebalancing before our next big left led push, when we can drag He Puapua out again!
 

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Sounds like transforming Gaza to the riviera is on his mind. His people trying to walk back some of his thoughts, but Israel full steam ahead
Pretty fair to say I’m hardly pro Israel, but is this really that bad?

Yeah I get the hand wringing of lefties about indigenous rights, but Israelis have been killing Palestinian kids my ENTIRE life. That’s a lot of suffering.
 
Pretty fair to say I’m hardly pro Israel, but is this really that bad?

Yeah I get the hand wringing of lefties about indigenous rights, but Israelis have been killing Palestinian kids my ENTIRE life. That’s a lot of suffering.
Israel had Palestinians leave their homes to form Israel, now America “asks” them to leave to do the place up? I understand why Palestinians feel hard done by. Seems to me that countries such as Palestine or Afghanistan are viewed as deserving of their fate because of terrorist organisations ruling their countries but what doesn’t seem to get acknowledged is there’s no democratic process to vote these organisations in but they take power by force and not what the majority want
 
From the BBC

New York Attorney General Letitia James says she and others will be suing the Trump administration over attempts by the Department of Government Efficiency (Doge) to access Treasury Department payment systems.

James says Elon Musk, who heads Doge, has been given access to "some of our country's most sensitive data".

Earlier this week, US media reported that Musk's team had been granted access by the Trump administration to the federal payments system in the US that controls the flow of trillions of dollars in funds every year.

James argues that Musk is unauthorised to access that sensitive information, and that him doing so is "unlawful, unprecedented and unacceptable."

"Doge has no authority to access this information," James says, adding that their goal is to block payments that "millions of Americans rely on".

“In defense of our constitution, our right to privacy, and the essential funding that individuals and communities nationwide are counting on, we will be filing a lawsuit to stop this injustice," she says.

The lawsuit will be filed by James, as well as the attorney generals of Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Minnesota, Rhode Island and others
 

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The left had it too, does George Soros ring bells, or all the tech guys that the left had censor anyone with a right wing viewpoint for years.
Wow the right got Elon who voted democrat for years.

Yes I don't agree fully with everything that has been done I don't like I'm not into this starforce thing he has created with Ellison, Altman and the Japanese guy. I can see what this could lead too.

Don't go on acting like the left just wants to raise taxes and spread the wealth and promote equity. As everything you say about the right can be applied to the left.
Soros is a right wing grand conspiracy. I'm curious about this statement: "or all the tech guys that the left had censor anyone with a right wing viewpoint for years." - care to elaborate with some examples?


Facts are externally independent of you, me and everyone else. They stand alone.
 
Soros is a right wing grand conspiracy. I'm curious about this statement: "or all the tech guys that the left had censor anyone with a right wing viewpoint for years." - care to elaborate with some examples?


Facts are externally independent of you, me and everyone else. They stand alone.
Just NZ examples off my head: Peter Williams, John Banks, Sean Plunket, Martin Devlin, Don Brash - all pushed to more extreme platforms now so that backfired…

Plus overseas speakers - Posie Parker, etc.

How many left leaning speakers have been canceled?
 

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Soros is a right wing grand conspiracy. I'm curious about this statement: "or all the tech guys that the left had censor anyone with a right wing viewpoint for years." - care to elaborate with some examples?


Facts are externally independent of you, me and everyone else. They stand alone.
The Overton window has shifted a bit, what was once deemed extremist racist hatespeech etc is now more acceptable discourse.
 
Just NZ examples off my head: Peter Williams, John Banks, Sean Plunket, Martin Devlin, Don Brash - all pushed to more extreme platforms now so that backfired…

Plus overseas speakers - Posie Parker, etc.

How many left leaning speakers have been canceled?
Well, thanks for answering for Drake, but I'd still like to hear from she/him/her/them.

And what do they all have in common? Right wing conspiracy theories.

Were they pushed?

Posie Parker?

She was still able to speak.

All these people are still able to speak.

That's the thing, if a venue decides not to host, a venue that has their own set of standards, well, you can go and find another one.

If you want to be a racist obnoxious bigoted old boomer somewhere, there's plenty of places you can do it.

Plenty of examples on here all the time.
 
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