Politics 🤡 Donald Trump

[MrFrankWhite]

I think it's a matter of finding ways to address low Maori literacy and disproportionate economic outcomes in this country

Stop allowing it. Stop pandering to the bottom quintile.

Sadly though, I think kiwis and Australians have lost their appetite for nation building.

 

[Worried2Death]

Stop allowing it. Stop pandering to the bottom quintile.

Sadly though, I think kiwis and Australians have lost their appetite for nation building.

Lemme ask you this, do you believe in ZOG, Zionist Occupied Governments controlling western countries with their pesky tricks?

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Lemme ask you this, do you believe in ZOG, Zionist Occupied Governments controlling western countries with their pesky tricks?

Of course not.

 

[Worried2Death]

Of course not.

Just checking, I don't know what rabbit holes you've been down

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Just checking, I don't know what rabbit holes you've been down

You would hate to know.

 

[Worried2Death]

You would hate to know.

Would I?

 

[Worried2Death]

Trump White House Appears to Shutter Spanish-Language Site and Social Media

A White House spokesman said the Spanish-language pages would soon be reinstated, though officials in Trump’s first administration reneged on a similar promise.

time.com

Uh oh. Don't worry guys, it'll brb soon.

Page not found: US Constitution disappears from White House website on day two of Trump 2.0

US President Donald Trump's team made notable changes to the White House website, prominently displaying an 'AMERICA IS BACK' message. Pages detailing the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and presidential biographies were temporarily missing, along with the Spanish-language version. Officials...

m.economictimes.com

 

[Worried2Death]

Uh oh. Don't worry guys, it'll brb soon.

Page not found: US Constitution disappears from White House website on day two of Trump 2.0

US President Donald Trump's team made notable changes to the White House website, prominently displaying an 'AMERICA IS BACK' message. Pages detailing the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and presidential biographies were temporarily missing, along with the Spanish-language version. Officials...

m.economictimes.com

...or will it?

 

[Worried2Death]

I’ve come to the realisation there are no good presidents, they’re all just puppets to a higher being, group or whatever it is. I did have faith in trump and support a lot of his ideologies like him scrapping all that lgbtq bull shit. And being anti abortion but I think he may be a wolf in sheep’s clothing. But Trump over Biden any day!

When was he in sheep's clothing?

 

[tajhay]

...or will it?

The whitehouse website needs more pics and references to trump lol

The White House

President Donald J. Trump and Vice President JD Vance are committed to lowering costs for all Americans, securing our borders, unleashing American energy dominance, restoring peace through strength, and making all Americans safe and secure once again.

www.whitehouse.gov

 

[Dannevegas]

When was he in sheep's clothing?

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Ye true they’re all fucked lol, most of Hollywood is connected to that guy.

but looking at him at face value I actually like or liked Trump.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Don't think anyone's suggesting that, I think it's a matter of finding ways to address low Maori literacy and disproportionate economic outcomes in this country

I agree but should we be aiming to achieved this by embracing the Pakeha ways or reverting to traditional Maori ways?

 

[tyrael]

I agree but should we be aiming to achieved this by embracing the Pakeha ways or reverting to traditional Maori ways?

Helping PI and Maori achieve better is multifaceted.

They have had intergenerational mistreatment. Dawn raids, taking of land, uplifting babies, racial profiling etc.

Neither Pakeha or Cultural ways are going to help immediately. Both are required and over generations.

It's easy to say, oh they should get over it, oh they should know that education is important, oh they should stop being lazy.

But if you look at trauma, it's not that simple. If a rape victim can never be intimate again, would you have the same attitude towards them? What about partners that refuse to get out of violent relationship, what is stockholm syndrome?

I don't have the answers to how to solve the problem but I have some suggestions. (None are culture related but poor related)

We shouldn't cram all the poor people into a KO building and they all go to a decile 1 school. There is nothing to aspire to and recruiting amazing teachers that want to work there are lessened.

It should be illegal for kids (16 under) to work after a certain time of the day. They should not be working to supplement the family income at the expense of their education. (Some kids work until 11pm, then they either don't come to school the next day or are very late).

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On a different note, has there been a positive effect on the way national have implemented the benefit? (Genuine question)

 

[MrFrankWhite]

intergenerational mistreatment. Dawn raids, taking of land, uplifting babies, racial profiling etc.

That applies to other races too though. Some excelled, some did not.

But if you look at trauma, it's not that simple. If a rape victim can never be intimate again, would you have the same attitude towards them? What about partners that refuse to get out of violent relationship, what is stockholm syndrome?

Sorry non of this is relevant. Japan had a nuclear bomb dropped on them.

We shouldn't cram all the poor people into a KO building and they all go to a decile 1 school. There is nothing to aspire to and recruiting amazing teachers that want to work there are lessened.

And yet great successes have come out of that. It’s not the environment, humans for millions of years could only dream of such luxuries.

It should be illegal for kids (16 under) to work after a certain time of the day. They should not be working to supplement the family income at the expense of their education. (Some kids work until 11pm, then they either don't come to school the next day or are very late).

This is a seriously terrible take bro. Asian kids grew up working in the fish and chip shop and still getting straight As.

Until the culture changes, nothing will.

 

[tyrael]

This is a seriously terrible take bro. Asian kids grew up working in the fish and chip shop and still getting straight As.

Until the culture changes, nothing will.

You're right about this but not the way you think. culture takes a long time to change and nothing in the last 30 years has the government tried to change anything.

Asian cultures no matter how poor they are value education above all. While they work a lot of hours, they are family owned businesses and you can see the kids studying in the shop too. Working at countdown doesn't allow you to do this.

Just because one person or a couple of families can rise above the ashes doesn't mean the system works. How many sports stars would have been in the cycle of poverty if they weren't good at sports i.e. LBJ

 

[MaybeTop8]

Helping PI and Maori achieve better is multifaceted.

They have had intergenerational mistreatment. Dawn raids, taking of land, uplifting babies, racial profiling etc.

Neither Pakeha or Cultural ways are going to help immediately. Both are required and over generations.

It's easy to say, oh they should get over it, oh they should know that education is important, oh they should stop being lazy.

But if you look at trauma, it's not that simple. If a rape victim can never be intimate again, would you have the same attitude towards them? What about partners that refuse to get out of violent relationship, what is stockholm syndrome?

I don't have the answers to how to solve the problem but I have some suggestions. (None are culture related but poor related)

We shouldn't cram all the poor people into a KO building and they all go to a decile 1 school. There is nothing to aspire to and recruiting amazing teachers that want to work there are lessened.

It should be illegal for kids (16 under) to work after a certain time of the day. They should not be working to supplement the family income at the expense of their education. (Some kids work until 11pm, then they either don't come to school the next day or are very late).

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On a different note, has there been a positive effect on the way national have implemented the benefit? (Genuine question)

Great post tyrael

 

[tyrael]

Great post tyrael

Only yesterday you thought I was a fascist

 

[MaybeTop8]

Only yesterday you thought I was a fascist

In my defense it was initially ambiguous, and I was too quick off the mark

 

[tyrael]

In my defense it was initially ambiguous, and I was too quick off the mark

all good brother.

6 AGAIN!!! Not 10!!!!

 

[MrFrankWhite]

You're right about this but not the way you think. culture takes a long time to change and nothing in the last 30 years has the government tried to change anything.

Asian cultures no matter how poor they are value education above all. While they work a lot of hours, they are family owned businesses and you can see the kids studying in the shop too. Working at countdown doesn't allow you to do this.

Just because one person or a couple of families can rise above the ashes doesn't mean the system works. How many sports stars would have been in the cycle of poverty if they weren't good at sports i.e. LBJ

Then we agree on most things. Looks like theres 2 options
1. People change their culture, or
2. The government forces them

Now Im personally down for either, but I doubt the general public has the appetite for those methods. The previous methods don't appear to be working either... NZ, Australia, USA makes no difference which country we are talking about.