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MaybeTop8 said:
Your post is saying ministers reject advice from officials? I was generally replying to this "You do realise that government depts have IT staff who could inform them things so the Ministers can then explain it? You do realise that most "experts" in AI, and pretty much anything, have had to learn about it? Even people who have "self taught" themselves about AI have spent time learning it."

and got a bit pissed off at the announcements made yesterday by Nicola Willis generally, so apologies for the dump, it was more aimed generally at people like Wiz and others who are taking pleasure in others misery.
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Decades ago, my brother went out with a girl whose brother was a policy writer and researcher for what was the Ministry of Transport back in the day.... yes, I am that old.

I had a discussion with him once about the authors of reports would deliberately write them in a way to suit their own bias.

Followed his career through the ranks of various departments and the highest position he got to was he was, for a time, the Acting Director-General of Health. Now, he's left being a civil servant and is a partner at Earnest and Young.
 
miket12 said:
Decades ago, my brother went out with a girl whose brother was a policy writer and researcher for what was the Ministry of Transport back in the day.... yes, I am that old.

I had a discussion with him once about the authors of reports would deliberately write them in a way to suit their own bias.

Followed his career through the ranks of various departments and the highest position he got to was he was, for a time, the Acting Director-General of Health. Now, he's left being a civil servant and is a partner at Earnest and Young.
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Absolutely. Not saying there's not an entrenched culture that could do with some unravelling - and that entrenched culture will have the threads of neoliberalism woven throughout.

Change is needed. But no one here seriously believes that National and this government are the ones to deliver that, given their slash and burn to date, with no rhyme or reason.

We're facing problems on a grand scale that needs democracy strengthened, not weakened, bipartisan strategies and agreements, turning towards common wealth and infrastructure.

The right are aware that such unity is detrimental to their power, and act accordingly.
 
MaybeTop8 said:
Absolutely. Not saying there's not an entrenched culture that could do with some unravelling - and that entrenched culture will have the threads of neoliberalism woven throughout.

Change is needed. But no one here seriously believes that National and this government are the ones to deliver that, given their slash and burn to date, with no rhyme or reason.

We're facing problems on a grand scale that needs democracy strengthened, not weakened, bipartisan strategies and agreements, turning towards common wealth and infrastructure.

The right are aware that such unity is detrimental to their power, and act accordingly.
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There was an old Dutch guy, Mr van Vliet, who used to own a carpet store in Auckland and sold mostly commercial grade carpet. When he had come to the end of a run from a large project, he'd keep the balance in his warehouse until a project came in which would use that amount what was left.

He'd then "offer" the client a choice of two carpets.... both for the same price. One sample was from the remnants he had left over, the other "sample" was actually an offcut from a carpet that had been replaced and was so ugly, he knew no one would pick it. That way, he kept his left over stock down but never had to reduce the price of it.

Moral of the story.... a number of times politicians do the same thing.... offer two alternatives... one of which is so unpalatable they know no one will go for and the other looks good.... but only when compared to the first option.
 
miket12 said:
There was an old Dutch guy, Mr van Vliet, who used to own a carpet store in Auckland and sold mostly commercial grade carpet. When he had come to the end of a run from a large project, he'd keep the balance in his warehouse until a project came in which would use that amount what was left.

He'd then "offer" the client a choice of two carpets.... both for the same price. One sample was from the remnants he had left over, the other "sample" was actually an offcut from a carpet that had been replaced and was so ugly, he knew no one would pick it. That way, he kept his left over stock down but never had to reduce the price of it.

Moral of the story.... a number of times politicians do the same thing.... offer two alternatives... one of which is so unpalatable they know no one will go for and the other looks good.... but only when compared to the first option.
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Sounds similar to Shane Jones and his fishing bill
Hope that the public will be happy when the worst part is canned and try to sneak through the rest of a dubious bill.
Old political ploy
 
Noitall said:
You need to run for government to phase us out and into sustainable power sources or you’re all talk
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Currently about 88% of our power generation is sustainable with hydro and geothermal making us a world leader.

Well above other first world countries like Australia (40-44%), USA (25-30%), EU (47%), etc

Looks like I’m not needed to solve our energy generation issues 🤣
 
wizard of Tauranga said:
Currently about 88% of our power generation is sustainable with hydro and geothermal making us a world leader.

Well above other first world countries like Australia (40-44%), USA (25-30%), EU (47%), etc

Looks like I’m not needed to solve our energy generation issues 🤣
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The Labour-led government (2017–2023) oversaw the largest absolute transition and set the highest formal renewable electricity targets in New Zealand's history. By pushing a suite of clean energy policies, they achieved a grid that consistently generated between 85% and 88% of its electricity from renewable sources










Not from me but ol mate ai says you can thank labour for that
 
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