You guys should start a givealittle to help the poor unfortunate wealthy
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And, in the meantime, the IRD just missed out on $1.8 mil from the sale of a $12 mil property on Waiheke to an American family because the foreign buyers tax was deemed too unpopular. The surprising thing to me was that it was the one tax policy that I can think off which was disliked by the Greens, TPM, NZ First and ACT over the last 30 years.
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So Wayne Brown doesnβt think Aucklanders going over the current harbour bridge or second harbour crossing should pay a toll of $9 (which apparently is the inflation adjusted amount from when the bridge was first tolled). Yet, he thought it was okay to collect money from a regional wide petrol tax and wants too charge a congestion tax for those silly enough to drive into the CBD at the wrong time off the day.
Difference? The bridge toll would go too central government while the other two are/were money for council.
Difference? The bridge toll would go too central government while the other two are/were money for council.
What's not being talked about in the public statements is the unworkability of public transport in Auckland. It's extremely poor in many areas, including the one where I live - I head in very early in a car (hybrid for all those on the right about to scream on their keyboards) which takes 30 mins approx for an 18km journey, and I pay just under 20 for parking. I also have to leave early to miss the traffic.
My area is not serviced well by public transport, and the office is located outside the cbd, so one way on public transport takes 1hr 45 and costs $9. One way. $18 in total
So taxing the only way that people can travel realistically in Auckland, which is cars in part because of the nimbyism against delivery of good public transport and in large part to the road lobby and oil and gas lobby, and offering no alternative is yet another punishment and tax on those who can afford it the least.
And then I hear the idiotic calls to force everyone into the office, and yes, these have come from those on the right, in a city which is already choked, does not have enough office space, etc etc. For no rational reason other than subjugation.
Whereas most of us adults are actually more productive working from home and very happy to go in one day a week to an office that can't hold all of us anyway.
The decades of underinvestment and outright hostility to well planned public transport, that we're seeing repeated against non petrol cars have led us to this point.
Aha, so you do work for AT and were directly responsible for the cameras in Bus Lanes.
Ps, Loved the subjugation bit
believe me there's no love lost with me and AT, having been a victim of the park rd bus lane rort
wizard of Tauranga
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Auckland is somewhat screwed fo transportation options being in a Z shape arounds 2 massive harbours
wizard of Tauranga
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Auckland needs to prioritise light rail routes and massively intensify those areas. Density makes public transport work. Auckland canβt physically build an adequate public transport to all existing spread out suburbs and has to rely on poor fitting bus services to fill a gap.
Auckland future must be planning forward with density and transport option in the right places not trying to fix past mistakes.
Ps. Cycle lanes are the dumbest waste of effort in both cost per user and injury/ H&S
I'm kinda guessing that last statement is trolling
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Road toll last year - 10 out of 272 deaths were cyclists with cyclist only accounting for less than 2% of all journeys, cycling is very, very hazardous - which makes sense really!
Weβre not Amsterdam!
Cost:
According to analyses around Waka Kotahi NZ Transport Agency projects:
Busy urban cycleways can reach $0.20β$0.60 per trip
Low-use cycleways can exceed $2β$5 per trip
Major roads typically sit around $0.05β$0.20 per vehicle trip
Best case roads/ cycle lanes costs are similar but we all know cycle lanes ALWAYS are low use in NZ bar 1 or 2
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Hard to argue with facts, please stick with emotive arguments only please.
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Alternatively, cycling doesnβt make any sense. I honestly donβt know why interest groups are pushing it.
Itβs not safe or cheap. Cycling should be off road, on footpaths. The sport side shouldnβt use roads, which are for transport.
This is the problem when politics backs special interest groups to build support. The underlying concept isnβt thought through, political parties just back them against all sense and logic forβ¦ votes.
Ooooh, okay then #SARCASMFORINRUIN
Some facts then
1. Wiz has always had it in for cycles, and always will
2. Wiz deflects frequently, particularly when there's a current government failure (very often) or he's on the losing side of something (ditto)
3. Wiz, and probably Inruin, love 1ZB
4. Wiz has frequently displayed a high level of entitlement and ignorance around his road use and what is actually legal.
5. "Why should I" often appears in his arguments
6. There are no links in any of Wiz's comments. Again.
7. Cycling is exceedingly healthy
8. A lot of the danger comes from entitled selfish motorists who think that they and only they are the gifted users of the roads.
9. They're not. Cyclists are legal road users as part of the road code
10. Cycling consumes no petrol
11. Cycling takes car drivers off the road
12. Cycling doesn't damage the roads
13. Cycling is 1% of the transport budget - https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/politica...uff-in-government-s-big-budget-transport-plan
And on. And on. And on.
Homelessness is directly correlated with folks thrown out of emergency housing, and rehab/mental health services being cut.
Both of which this government has carried out deliberately.
Now, these people get arrested and/or moved on. To......where? Somewhere else on the streets, out of the view of the media.
This is classic "doing something for the sake of looking like we're doing something" where all outcomes will be bad instead of addressing the core issues.
View: https://bsky.app/profile/mountaintui.bsky.social/post/3mffpkv3b5k2a
Both of which this government has carried out deliberately.
Now, these people get arrested and/or moved on. To......where? Somewhere else on the streets, out of the view of the media.
This is classic "doing something for the sake of looking like we're doing something" where all outcomes will be bad instead of addressing the core issues.
View: https://bsky.app/profile/mountaintui.bsky.social/post/3mffpkv3b5k2a
wizard of Tauranga
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And cyclists keep dying at a far, far higher rate.
Under H&S legislation they should be banned as an unsafe mode of transport, just like smoking is being phased out.
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βmore than 6,800 net new social homes delivered since November 2023 by KΔinga Ora and CHPsβ
As many on here have posted, thereβs no need for people to be living on the streets and housing is available.
For many, homelessness is a choice and they can do it out of the city centres.
Far far higher rate compared to what?
Cyclists are 2-3% of road users as you said, and make up roughly the same % of deaths.. 3.6% last year as you said.
3500 new builds not proceeding
To your post:
1. How many new builds are needed each year?
2. What is the actual net figure taking into account demolitions and sell offs?
3. How many were chucked out when they shouldn't have been?
and many more questions you can answer yourself.
People of KΔinga Ora: The big state housing sell-down
Analysis: KΔinga Ora has decided to not proceed with 3500 planned new builds β and it's the dislocated tenants who have been left without a voice. Jonathan Milne reports.
newsroom.co.nz
