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Probably not public knowledge to those outside Tauranga, about the slip. The site could easily be contained within the camp ground, especially after it moved from an urgent life saving mission to a body recovery⦠but:
- 4 roads have been blocked or partially blocked off
- shops, including 13 hospitality businesses within the cordon and estimated about 200 workers are closed and inaccessible.
- all homes and apartments have been closed to access within the cordon affecting 1000βs of people requiring alternative accomodation
- the main beach has been half closed despite being several hundred meters from the slip
- council reserves eg Mt Drury aren't open and the reserve on the other side of the shops had to shut closing their markets.
There is no info coming out on whatβs happening, there is no H&S reason for everything to be closed, this is a peak long weekend. While itβs a tragedy, it can be contained without making others suffer.
The camp can easily be blocked off and everything done from within there. Again if this was a car crash with 6 dead, it would have been opened up within hours. Obviously a tragedy but this can be contained within the camp.
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- 4 roads have been blocked or partially blocked off
- shops, including 13 hospitality businesses within the cordon and estimated about 200 workers are closed and inaccessible.
- all homes and apartments have been closed to access within the cordon affecting 1000βs of people requiring alternative accomodation
- the main beach has been half closed despite being several hundred meters from the slip
- council reserves eg Mt Drury aren't open and the reserve on the other side of the shops had to shut closing their markets.
There is no info coming out on whatβs happening, there is no H&S reason for everything to be closed, this is a peak long weekend. While itβs a tragedy, it can be contained without making others suffer.
The camp can easily be blocked off and everything done from within there. Again if this was a car crash with 6 dead, it would have been opened up within hours. Obviously a tragedy but this can be contained within the camp.
Closed cafes inside slip cordon call for financial relief
They are torn between grieving lives lost and stress for their staff and finances.
A bystander without full knowledge of the situation criticises those in authority for making a decision based on the knowledge they have or the advice they have been given.Probably not public knowledge to those outside Tauranga, about the slip. The site could easily be contained within the camp ground, especially after it moved from an urgent life saving mission to a body recovery⦠but:
- 4 roads have been blocked or partially blocked off
- shops, including 13 hospitality businesses within the cordon and estimated about 200 workers are closed and inaccessible.
- all homes and apartments have been closed to access within the cordon affecting 1000βs of people requiring alternative accomodation
- the main beach has been half closed despite being several hundred meters from the slip
- council reserves eg Mt Drury aren't open and the reserve on the other side of the shops had to shut closing their markets.
There is no info coming out on whatβs happening, there is no H&S reason for everything to be closed, this is a peak long weekend. While itβs a tragedy, it can be contained without making others suffer.
The camp can easily be blocked off and everything done from within there. Again if this was a car crash with 6 dead, it would have been opened up within hours. Obviously a tragedy but this can be contained within the camp.
Closed cafes inside slip cordon call for financial relief
They are torn between grieving lives lost and stress for their staff and finances.
Reminds me of the criticism of the Ardern government at Covid time
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juju
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He should post this to the community facebook group under his real name and see the response.
wizard of Tauranga
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Those in authority have consistently said nothing. Then complain about rumours or people with a vested interest getting upset. As the article says, the communication to those affected has been very unprofessional.
The roads around the camp are not closed for H&S reasons (eg residents are ok to stay but once you leave the border they will not let you back in). Itβs just for convenience, which when weighing all affected (residents and businesses) is not justified when the camp can be easily isolated.
And yes, this reminds me of the last prolonged lockdown that was the nail in the coffin for Ardern - taking the easiest option for those in charge, rather than governing for all and weighing all factors.
Obviously the police, search and rescue and the victims families are a strong voice in decision making prioritising for themselves. All the residents and businesses are locked out and ignored. Whereβs their voice? Very Ardern.
Itβs your assumption that they are not weighing up all factors.
If youβre strong in your view no doubt weβll see you on TVOne news tonight holding a placard at the scene or are you just one of the many keyboard warriors.
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You do realise that answering questions on this thread is totally optional?
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When has the Government ever did what the people want!Probably not public knowledge to those outside Tauranga, about the slip. The site could easily be contained within the camp ground, especially after it moved from an urgent life saving mission to a body recovery⦠but:
- 4 roads have been blocked or partially blocked off
- shops, including 13 hospitality businesses within the cordon and estimated about 200 workers are closed and inaccessible.
- all homes and apartments have been closed to access within the cordon affecting 1000βs of people requiring alternative accomodation
- the main beach has been half closed despite being several hundred meters from the slip
- council reserves eg Mt Drury aren't open and the reserve on the other side of the shops had to shut closing their markets.
There is no info coming out on whatβs happening, there is no H&S reason for everything to be closed, this is a peak long weekend. While itβs a tragedy, it can be contained without making others suffer.
The camp can easily be blocked off and everything done from within there. Again if this was a car crash with 6 dead, it would have been opened up within hours. Obviously a tragedy but this can be contained within the camp.
Closed cafes inside slip cordon call for financial relief
They are torn between grieving lives lost and stress for their staff and finances.
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miket12
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Stupid idea..... a lot of our retirees and most venerable rely on postal services.
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NZ Post to close services at more than 140 retail stores in major urban overhaul
The closures follow a Government deal resetting NZ Post's store rules.
Reports of some people circumventing the cordons so they can walk on the Mount. Not only disrespectful but a nuisance for those who are still involved with the ongoing issues there
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I am picking the coming year to be a particularly nasty political shit fight
wizard of Tauranga
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You do realise I posted based on a herald article quoting all the businesses affectedβ¦
You do realise mediaβs job is to hold authority to account and ask the questions that arenβt being answeredβ¦
I hear some volatile posters want to cancel culture people with these views, in typical left fashion. They are all in the article, or is he just a keyboard warrior
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Pretty certain Wiz that the authorities police rescuers and frontline medical staff will have a better understanding of what is happening and what is needed for safety security and urgency than any part of the media.You do realise I posted based on a herald article quoting all the businesses affectedβ¦
You do realise mediaβs job is to hold authority to account and ask the questions that arenβt being answeredβ¦
I hear some volatile posters want to cancel culture people with these views, in typical left fashion. They are all in the article, or is he just a keyboard warrior
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Not only that - the business owners quote were asking for financial relief and better communication from the council - not for the roads to be reopened. Pretty gross to even think this out loud with people still unaccounted for.
wizard of Tauranga
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Well the communication is poor.
How many bodies have been recovered? How many more to find? Whatβs a timeline?
Basic question that address concerns of interested parties instead of saying nothing then bitching and moaning when rumours fill the massive gaps.
I want Ardern back, who actually communicated whatβs happening
I am sure they are doing their best to find and recover the others while keeping the rescuers safe when more slips are probably ready to occur. The last thing we need at the moment is even more tragedies.Well the communication is poor.
How many bodies have been recovered? How many more to find? Whatβs a timeline?
Basic question that address concerns of interested parties instead of saying nothing then bitching and moaning when rumours fill the massive gaps.
I want Ardern back, who actually communicated whatβs happening
Nothing will stop the rumors and innuendo. You should know that Wiz
Ardern coming back. FMD Wiz you can be a very strange fucker.
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It is going to get a lot worse. Winston has probably been seeing one of those singing tutors to get tips on maintaining his voice. We have had 30+ years of this, we know he will be the loudest.
It will be like a bell curve. He will get louder as it leads up to the election. Likely be required to form a government, so he will go quiet after the election.
At his age, he must be close to finishing up. I'm not sure he'll probably outlast the rest of us. He's like Keith Richards. Winston has abused his body so much with alcohol and cigarettes that nature is struggling to get him.
This government has made every effort to reverse any action taken by the previous government on Climate Change remediation and mitigation. They've made every effort to discourage renewable options like solar and evs, and encourage fossil fuel exploration
This includes rescinding the money put aside for the resilience fund in 2024. Of the 6 billion for the fund, 3.2 was reallocated to the general fund. Whatever that means - how are they paying for tax cuts we can't afford again?
Anyway, more and more we will see extreme weather events hitting this country.
We are already watching the insurance companies refuse to insure, and the government now saying they will cease paying out at some point, while insurance premiums climb through the roof.
All the while the very policies this government are forcing on the population of New Zealand will exacerbate our situation going forwards.
And Nicola Willis and Seymour try to cry it's not political. It's absolutely political.
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This includes rescinding the money put aside for the resilience fund in 2024. Of the 6 billion for the fund, 3.2 was reallocated to the general fund. Whatever that means - how are they paying for tax cuts we can't afford again?
Anyway, more and more we will see extreme weather events hitting this country.
We are already watching the insurance companies refuse to insure, and the government now saying they will cease paying out at some point, while insurance premiums climb through the roof.
All the while the very policies this government are forcing on the population of New Zealand will exacerbate our situation going forwards.
And Nicola Willis and Seymour try to cry it's not political. It's absolutely political.
Stuff
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