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[Noitall]

Meanwhile the government books are 700m worse than projected in May's budget

And this is during the green shoots you've been going on about.

The government have made the economy worse...

Government finances worse than expected as tax take falls

Treasury figures show a bigger deficit than forecast.

www.rnz.co.nz

My hope is they’re voted out. I certainly feel like the country is in a worse state than when they took office

 

[MaybeTop8]

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[Mr. Brownstone]

Meanwhile the government books are 700m worse than projected in May's budget

And this is during the green shoots you've been going on about.

The government have made the economy worse...

Government finances worse than expected as tax take falls

Treasury figures show a bigger deficit than forecast.

www.rnz.co.nz

I don’t care for the current government at all, can’t stand the leader. However I do believe they’re superior to the previous mob. It’s unfortunate the bar is set so low. But putting all that aside, no one should be upset that the cycle is turning. However it all takes time, it will pivot slowly… just as it did when the economy soured, which is why both the current & previous governments need to take blame for what has played out. But geez I put the RB as the single biggest contributor to our recession.

 

[Noitall]

I don’t care for the current government at all, can’t stand the leader. However I do believe they’re superior to the previous mob. It’s unfortunate the bar is set so low. But putting all that aside, no one should be upset that the cycle is turning. However it all takes time, it will pivot slowly… just as it did when the economy soured, which is why both the current & previous governments need to take blame for what has played out. But geez I put the RB as the single biggest contributor to our recession.

One thing that really irks me is during the key government we were fed how these pay rises that politicians received couldn’t be helped and though labour were far from perfect and for sure they both wear blame for the overall state of the country, they showed a freeze was all that was necessary with the state of the economy declining and performance criticised. I’ve seen nothing that warrants that freeze to have been lifted and feel they’re the last that deserves to be rewarded. I’m sure there will be a reason why this is wrong and they still benefited but politics all about optics and in my view labour did the right thing in this regard

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

One thing that really irks me is during the key government we were fed how these pay rises that politicians received couldn’t be helped and though labour were far from perfect and for sure they both wear blame for the overall state of the country, they showed a freeze was all that was necessary with the state of the economy declining and performance criticised. I’ve seen nothing that warrants that freeze to have been lifted and feel they’re the last that deserves to be rewarded. I’m sure there will be a reason why this is wrong and they still benefited but politics all about optics and in my view labour did the right thing in this regard

I get what you’re saying however I kind of argue the opposite in that if we don’t start paying decent coin then we won’t attract quality people to run the country. Where’s the incentive for quality people to switch currently? All it’s attracting is narcissists and idiots.

Significantly up the pay and significantly reduce the number of them. And switch back to FPP & increase the election cycle to 4 years while we’re at it.

 

[Rick O’Shay]

Getting rid of the list MP parasites would be a good start

 

[defensivebomb]

Getting rid of the list MP parasites would be a good start

Politicians that are accountable to noone but their party. Basically list MPs are just bureaucrats with on 3 yearly contracts

 

[MaybeTop8]

Tha act party seems pretty unaccountable. So does nz first for that matter

 

[John Nick]

Getting rid of the list MP parasites would be a good start

Absolutely

 

[Rick O’Shay]

Tha act party seems pretty unaccountable. So does nz first for that matter

looks like Big Willie might become accountable shortly

Has MP misused his muscle at MUMA? MSM shuns meddling claims by Matt McCarten in complaint against Willie Jackson

Bob Edlin writes – Bullying accusations against Labour’s Willie Jackson are highlighted in two of the dozens of news headlines listed on the Democracy’s Project’s News Briefing: 4 December 2…

pointofordernz.wordpress.com

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Tha act party seems pretty unaccountable. So does nz first for that matter

And so do the equivalents on the other side of the political spectrum. In fact they probably take it to a whole new lower level of disgrace
.

 

[Rick O’Shay]

Politicians that are accountable to noone but their party. Basically list MPs are just bureaucrats Grifters with on 3 yearly contracts

Fixed that for you

 

[John Nick]

Politicians that are accountable to noone but their party. Basically list MPs are just bureaucrats with on 3 yearly contracts

And there's a fair number of complete fuckwits in their ranks of all parties

 

[juju]

Tha act party seems pretty unaccountable. So does nz first for that matter

Nah they're very accountable... to their donors

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

And there's a fair number of complete fuckwits in their ranks of all parties

Fuckwits would surely outnumber non-fuckwits. I’d argue a couple of parties are 100% fuckwits.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Fuckwits would surely outnumber non-fuckwits. I’d argue a couple of parties are 100% fuckwits.

National and act, agreed

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

National and act, agreed

I was thinking more the greens but not something I’m gonna die in the ditch over