This is wildly disingenuous coming from you. You arenāt that obtuse.
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of course he does, hes a smart guy
I don't know what 3 Waters has to do with the Romans, going back to the Naughty Chair thread, somehow it seems safer
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Finally this actually has very little to do with every day mÄori people. Itās why Iām not making generalisations saying āmÄori are all xā.
Itās got far more to do with governance and the foundation of society than the individual.
Well I never claimed neolithic culture is some sort of virtue, and don't know anyone who does, do you?
thats the problem bro... just because the mÄori party has mÄori in it you tare all mÄori with the same brush.... whats the percentage of that party 2percent?.... that should give you a clue about where it stands with the Majority of mÄori.... do better
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Fuck me why hold back all your racist bile. Well done.
Oh really? There's zero institutions that prioritize indigenous perspectives in NZ?
In a dunning kruger kind of way......sure......I can see that.
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what kings? .... bro do you think Im deep into my mÄori culture
I know white kids that know more about mÄori and Te Reo then i will ever know.Do they prioritise or just include?Oh really? There's zero institutions that prioritize indigenous perspectives in NZ?
Well you're not wrong, it's definitely optics! I agree that mÄori absolutely need better political representation.
Also just because I've made a couple of points to consider, that doesn't make me a racist, I haven't mistreated someone based on skin colour or culture have I..
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Bring back Toyota Cup, we was kings of thatwhat kings? .... bro do you think Im deep into my mÄori culture
Piss take of my African brethren. Probably too niche for here. And while I never said anything of the sort, I do agree there are some absolute Caucasian fanatics who fetishize mÄori. I've suffered at their hands since 99% of non mÄori / PI think I am mÄori.what kings? .... bro do you think Im deep into my mÄori culture
Good time to post this.
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Good one, typical emotive response..
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most mÄori go with Labour, National or Winny, Moari are just your run of the mill centrist.... and no i dont think that, didnt cross my mind
see you can understand what mÄori go through, just brush up on the BillyT humour and you halfway there
.... you could even try be Billys daughter in the skit.... go full radical, you might actually like it
I think we've heard enough about his fetishes, he should have stopped after that time he told us how he dresses up as Caligulasee you can understand what mÄori go through, just brush up on the BillyT humour and you halfway there
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Seen as weāre on the slippery slip of race today:
Iām very involved in the Rotorua community which is predominantly MÄori. What I always notice is MÄori are a lot more family and community orientated in their thinking and time as opposed to other cultures which are more individualistic.
There are positives and negatives to this cultural observation.
Now if we accept that outcomes are predicated by the inputs, there is no way we will end up with similar outcomes when culturally we have vastly different priorities.
The attempts to skew policy and advantage groups to give equal outcomes seems fraught and destined to fail in the longer term if you donāt equalise the underlying differences that make up each culture.To change outcomes fundamentally you need to change the people.
Do MÄori want to be more individualistic (eg more personal responsibility for their own individual health) if it means losing the communal community mindset that makes them happy? Thatās the only way I see equal outcomes. Or should we be happy with differences and accept we will have different outcomes?
The whole issues is when cultures say they want to keep different cultural priorities but expect the same outcomes that different priorities deliver.
Flowing on from this, the focus is always on negative MÄori outcomes. But there are lots of outcomes where MÄori have better outcomes that we donāt highlight. More secure within their family unit; more loved; better family and community supported; etc than other cultures. Would MÄori trade this for better individualistic outcomes?
Just my thought for the day.
Iām very involved in the Rotorua community which is predominantly MÄori. What I always notice is MÄori are a lot more family and community orientated in their thinking and time as opposed to other cultures which are more individualistic.
There are positives and negatives to this cultural observation.
Now if we accept that outcomes are predicated by the inputs, there is no way we will end up with similar outcomes when culturally we have vastly different priorities.
The attempts to skew policy and advantage groups to give equal outcomes seems fraught and destined to fail in the longer term if you donāt equalise the underlying differences that make up each culture.To change outcomes fundamentally you need to change the people.
Do MÄori want to be more individualistic (eg more personal responsibility for their own individual health) if it means losing the communal community mindset that makes them happy? Thatās the only way I see equal outcomes. Or should we be happy with differences and accept we will have different outcomes?
The whole issues is when cultures say they want to keep different cultural priorities but expect the same outcomes that different priorities deliver.
Flowing on from this, the focus is always on negative MÄori outcomes. But there are lots of outcomes where MÄori have better outcomes that we donāt highlight. More secure within their family unit; more loved; better family and community supported; etc than other cultures. Would MÄori trade this for better individualistic outcomes?
Just my thought for the day.
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How it seems to typically play out on here is that the lefties say something ridiculous, the centre-right counter it with logic & fact, the lefties then find some angle loosely related to earlier ridiculous statement to then accuse the centre-right of being racists, centre-right then gets dragged down to lefties level and what follows is an all in no holds barred royal rumble. This is a long winded way of saying itās all top8ās fault.
